Originally posted by Blue The Toyo is more complicated and I don't know much about them other than they are into view and large format cameras at present.
Not to threadjack, but the Toyo thing IS more complicated indeed. I tried tracking the corporate lifeline, which is obscure (at least in English language sources). There have been fine Toyo LF cameras for decades -- I once lusted after a lightweight 5x7" field camera. The 35mm lenses are something else, especially those called Five Star, which may be labeled Toyo or Tou or Toyu etc. It's unclear whether the Toyo LF producer is the same as the Five-Star producer (or marketer).
Thanks for the Suntar 135/2.8 link. I've seen that before, those beautiful pics, and the comment that the photographer could get great results using Coke bottle bottoms as lenses. In real estate it's location, location, location. In photography it's lighting, lighting, lighting.