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Harald · 10-14-2007, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by stewart_photo

Okay, this is extremely simple, Harald........
stewart

Could you upload the picture you made, so that we can compare

Edit:

Ok, here is results when I made all my efforts to follow your steps . And I have tried some other spots than those you mentioned, but I think that result were not better than from points you gave us. In this picture I didnt adjust brightness, saturation or contrast.

Comments: you say that next phase is adjust brightness, saturation and contrast. It is interesting because with standard adjustments with sliders I cannot get it right:

- blacks are too black, featureless, compare to the the other picture and/or see the Photoshop info tool CMYK readings: large areas are burbt to complete white in the ice or black in the uniforms, they are well beyound any adjustment capability of tools you mentioned AFAIK
- picture has way too much contrast, adjusting it with those tools you mentioned doesnt produce acceptable results to me
- there is still yellow cast in many places: left upper corner side panel, slightly other places of panels too , ice just under the side panels, socks of the players, large area of ice in the bottom left corner ... and I cannot get this away without adjusting yellow/green color and then all other colors are again out of balance.

Of course one can use masks or feathered area selections, but it is quite laborous task and I have never got good results this way either. It is very much simpler make correction in RAW converter and get it right at once.

By adjusting it this way you can actually get some results in the area you took those measurements. But with some consequencies: original dynamic range is severely compressed and after this copression originally light areas are completely burnt to pure white and originally dark areas are completely black, contrast is very high and there is not enough room to adjust it properly, there still is colour casts in the areas your adjustments didnt touch.

I hope you end your example and show me how easily correct these remaining issues too?

As you can see, this method was not new to me at all, but results are unacceptable to me.

10-14-2007, 09:51 AM	#38
Harald Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland, Europe Gallery Photos: 0 Posts: 183	Originally Posted by stewart_photo Okay, this is extremely simple, Harald........ stewart Could you upload the picture you made, so that we can compare Edit: Ok, here is results when I made all my efforts to follow your steps . And I have tried some other spots than those you mentioned, but I think that result were not better than from points you gave us. In this picture I didnt adjust brightness, saturation or contrast. Comments: you say that next phase is adjust brightness, saturation and contrast. It is interesting because with standard adjustments with sliders I cannot get it right: - blacks are too black, featureless, compare to the the other picture and/or see the Photoshop info tool CMYK readings: large areas are burbt to complete white in the ice or black in the uniforms, they are well beyound any adjustment capability of tools you mentioned AFAIK - picture has way too much contrast, adjusting it with those tools you mentioned doesnt produce acceptable results to me - there is still yellow cast in many places: left upper corner side panel, slightly other places of panels too , ice just under the side panels, socks of the players, large area of ice in the bottom left corner ... and I cannot get this away without adjusting yellow/green color and then all other colors are again out of balance. Of course one can use masks or feathered area selections, but it is quite laborous task and I have never got good results this way either. It is very much simpler make correction in RAW converter and get it right at once. By adjusting it this way you can actually get some results in the area you took those measurements. But with some consequencies: original dynamic range is severely compressed and after this copression originally light areas are completely burnt to pure white and originally dark areas are completely black, contrast is very high and there is not enough room to adjust it properly, there still is colour casts in the areas your adjustments didnt touch. I hope you end your example and show me how easily correct these remaining issues too? As you can see, this method was not new to me at all, but results are unacceptable to me. __________________ good pictures are made of good light...... not pixels or lines per inch, not lack of CA, aberrations or banding..... Last edited by Harald; 10-14-2007 at 02:23 PM..