Nature In front of or in back of ...

In front of or in back of ... · **1 Like**

Bonjour,

A bokeh study with the Precivar projector lens ...

Salut, J

p38arover · 11-22-2014, 02:03 AM

Just a question on the title and noting you lived in the US for some time - why would one write "in back of" instead of "behind"? I assume it's an Americanism.

**PJ1** · 11-22-2014, 02:44 AM

An interesting image. I presume the lens is wide open (no need for aperture control on a projector lens?) so the depth of field is very narrow. It adds something 'special' to the image. Sort of "Art for art's sake" (which was the title of a 10CC song). I understand "in back of" having lived in the US for a year or so once. But that is the difference between cosmopolitan Mosquito Creek and .... well .... Western Sydney. (Sorry, Ron. couldn't resist.)

Jean Poitiers · 11-22-2014, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by p38arover

Just a question on the title and noting you lived in the US for some time - why would one write "in back of" instead of "behind"? I assume it's an Americanism.

An Americanism, possibly ... maybe more an Oklahoman-ism where I grew up.

Old (bad) habits die hard ...

J

---------- Post added 11-22-14 at 11:46 ----------

Originally posted by PJ1

An interesting image. I presume the lens is wide open (no need for aperture control on a projector lens?) so the depth of field is very narrow. It adds something 'special' to the image. Sort of "Art for art's sake" (which was the title of a 10CC song). I understand "in back of" having lived in the US for a year or so once. But that is the difference between cosmopolitan Mosquito Creek and .... well .... Western Sydney. (Sorry, Ron. couldn't resist.)

Thanks for your comments.

The lens has no aperture. Basically, it's a tube with some lens elements toward front.

Shallow DOF makes them fun to play with ... Cheers, J

Rimfiredude · 11-22-2014, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by p38arover

Just a question on the title and noting you lived in the US for some time - why would one write "in back of" instead of "behind"? I assume it's an Americanism.

And why would you say "behind", when in this situation, "in back of" works better as a title. Just my thoughts.

---------- Post added 11-22-14 at 08:43 AM ----------

Oh, by the way, nice shot.

Jean Poitiers · 11-22-2014, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Rimfiredude

And why would you say "behind", when in this situation, "in back of" works better as a title. Just my thoughts.

---------- Post added 11-22-14 at 08:43 AM ----------

Oh, by the way, nice shot.

Thanks for your compliment and the title wording was a bit on purpose ... Cheers, J

p38arover · 11-22-2014, 02:51 PM

It's just that I've heard it on TV and your post reminded me of it.

I guess it goes with some other sayings which are the opposite of the intent or have redundant words, e.g., "I could care less" where we'd say "I couldn't care less" (I usually couldn't); "let's see if we can't find it" - we'd say "let's see if we can find it" (assuming we do want to find it); "where are you at?" always sounds odd to us, we think the "at" is redundant.

Don't worry, I'm not just having a go at Americans. The British have some odd ones, too!

Jean Poitiers · 11-23-2014, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by p38arover

It's just that I've heard it on TV and your post reminded me of it.

I guess it goes with some other sayings which are the opposite of the intent or have redundant words, e.g., "I could care less" where we'd say "I couldn't care less" (I usually couldn't); "let's see if we can't find it" - we'd say "let's see if we can find it" (assuming we do want to find it); "where are you at?" always sounds odd to us, we think the "at" is redundant.

Don't worry, I'm not just having a go at Americans. The British have some odd ones, too!

I have a few Brit (and Irish) friends here ... They have some "good ones" to say, too !

**Kerrowdown** · 11-23-2014, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by p38arover

The British have some odd ones

Aye especially the English, nae loch us scots 'en.

**crewl1** · 11-23-2014, 12:37 AM

Nice colors, the lens does well under your skilled hands.

Jean Poitiers · 11-23-2014, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by crewl1

Nice colors, the lens does well under your skilled hands.

Thanks so much! Cheers, J

---------- Post added 11-23-14 at 08:39 ----------

Originally posted by Kerrowdown

Aye especially the English, nae loch us scots 'en.

I have a Scot friend, as well ... but, we won't go there !

Rimfiredude · 11-23-2014, 03:43 PM

The Brits and Irish have a few good ones, but you Australians are from another planet with you sayings.

p38arover · 11-23-2014, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Rimfiredude

The Brits and Irish have a few good ones, but you Australians are from another planet with you sayings.

We try!

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11-22-2014, 02:03 AM	#2
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	Just a question on the title and noting you lived in the US for some time - why would one write "in back of" instead of "behind"? I assume it's an Americanism.

11-22-2014, 02:44 AM	#3
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,486	An interesting image. I presume the lens is wide open (no need for aperture control on a projector lens?) so the depth of field is very narrow. It adds something 'special' to the image. Sort of "Art for art's sake" (which was the title of a 10CC song). I understand "in back of" having lived in the US for a year or so once. But that is the difference between cosmopolitan Mosquito Creek and .... well .... Western Sydney. (Sorry, Ron. couldn't resist.)

11-22-2014, 02:47 AM	#4
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076 Original Poster	Originally posted by p38arover Just a question on the title and noting you lived in the US for some time - why would one write "in back of" instead of "behind"? I assume it's an Americanism. An Americanism, possibly ... maybe more an Oklahoman-ism where I grew up. Old (bad) habits die hard ... J ---------- Post added 11-22-14 at 11:46 ---------- Originally posted by PJ1 An interesting image. I presume the lens is wide open (no need for aperture control on a projector lens?) so the depth of field is very narrow. It adds something 'special' to the image. Sort of "Art for art's sake" (which was the title of a 10CC song). I understand "in back of" having lived in the US for a year or so once. But that is the difference between cosmopolitan Mosquito Creek and .... well .... Western Sydney. (Sorry, Ron. couldn't resist.) Thanks for your comments. The lens has no aperture. Basically, it's a tube with some lens elements toward front. Shallow DOF makes them fun to play with ... Cheers, J

11-22-2014, 06:42 AM	#5
Rimfiredude Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Washington Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,176	Originally posted by p38arover Just a question on the title and noting you lived in the US for some time - why would one write "in back of" instead of "behind"? I assume it's an Americanism. And why would you say "behind", when in this situation, "in back of" works better as a title. Just my thoughts. ---------- Post added 11-22-14 at 08:43 AM ---------- Oh, by the way, nice shot.

11-22-2014, 07:40 AM	#6
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076 Original Poster	Originally posted by Rimfiredude And why would you say "behind", when in this situation, "in back of" works better as a title. Just my thoughts. ---------- Post added 11-22-14 at 08:43 AM ---------- Oh, by the way, nice shot. Thanks for your compliment and the title wording was a bit on purpose ... Cheers, J

11-22-2014, 02:51 PM	#7
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	It's just that I've heard it on TV and your post reminded me of it. I guess it goes with some other sayings which are the opposite of the intent or have redundant words, e.g., "I could care less" where we'd say "I couldn't care less" (I usually couldn't); "let's see if we can't find it" - we'd say "let's see if we can find it" (assuming we do want to find it); "where are you at?" always sounds odd to us, we think the "at" is redundant. Don't worry, I'm not just having a go at Americans. The British have some odd ones, too!

11-23-2014, 12:13 AM	#8
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076 Original Poster	Originally posted by p38arover It's just that I've heard it on TV and your post reminded me of it. I guess it goes with some other sayings which are the opposite of the intent or have redundant words, e.g., "I could care less" where we'd say "I couldn't care less" (I usually couldn't); "let's see if we can't find it" - we'd say "let's see if we can find it" (assuming we do want to find it); "where are you at?" always sounds odd to us, we think the "at" is redundant. Don't worry, I'm not just having a go at Americans. The British have some odd ones, too! I have a few Brit (and Irish) friends here ... They have some "good ones" to say, too !

11-23-2014, 12:19 AM	#9
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,863	Originally posted by p38arover The British have some odd ones Aye especially the English, nae loch us scots 'en.

11-23-2014, 12:37 AM	#10
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Nice colors, the lens does well under your skilled hands.

11-23-2014, 12:39 AM	#11
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076 Original Poster	Originally posted by crewl1 Nice colors, the lens does well under your skilled hands. Thanks so much! Cheers, J ---------- Post added 11-23-14 at 08:39 ---------- Originally posted by Kerrowdown Aye especially the English, nae loch us scots 'en. I have a Scot friend, as well ... but, we won't go there !

11-23-2014, 03:43 PM	#12
Rimfiredude Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Washington Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,176	The Brits and Irish have a few good ones, but you Australians are from another planet with you sayings.

11-23-2014, 05:57 PM	#13
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	Originally posted by Rimfiredude The Brits and Irish have a few good ones, but you Australians are from another planet with you sayings. We try!