K10D ISO question

8540tomg · 07-30-2014, 02:49 PM

Hi all,

I just noticed something odd in the LCD panel on the top of my K10. In the lower right quadrant I normally used to see the ISO setting. For some reason I have a number showing which seems unrelated to ISO. It is counting backwards from 827, one shot at a time as I trip the shutter. I have set the ISO to 100 and taken a few shots. The images are properly exposed and show ISO 100 in the EXIF but the 827 number returns and starts counting down again. I don't see anything in the K10 Operating Manual regarding this issue.

Here are the steps I've taken so far:

I have deleted all images on the card and reformatted it.

I removed the card and rebooted the camera. I turned it off, reinserted the card and turned it on again. It's the old turn it off and on again trick that often works with computers. No luck.

I have restored the original factory settings.

The battery is fully charged.

I have tried different settings: M, SV, TV, AV TAV, and P

I am running the most recent update for the K10.

Makes no difference whether I am using a DA lens or an old M series lens.

Makes no difference whether the camera is set to auto or manual.

Other than this glitch everything else seems normal. Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks

Tom G

Last edited by 8540tomg; 07-30-2014 at 03:18 PM. Reason: typo

Alcazar · 07-30-2014, 03:24 PM

it's the number of shots that you can take before your card is full :-) quite useful feature actually

Joel B · 07-30-2014, 03:32 PM

Yep that's a shot counter. Now you said it used to show your iso there? I wonder if the latest firmware upgrade changed the use of that section of the lcd. My k100D has always had the counter there even with firmware upgrades. Send Adam a shout out, maybe he'll know.

**Lowell Goudge** · 07-30-2014, 03:32 PM

I don't recall ever seeing the ISO here, unless you are adjusting it in TAv mode perhaps

8540tomg · 07-30-2014, 03:55 PM

Really - a shot counter. I never realized that.

I looked in the manual under shot counter and counter and found nothing.

I haven't used the K10 for quite a while as I use the K5 almost all the time.

I guess I got used to seeing the ISO setting in the K5 panel in that area.

Good to know nothing is wrong.

In my defense the guy at Henry's Camera in Waterloo couldn't figure it out either. Still feel pretty dumb though.

I should have come straight to the Forum. All the experts are found here.

Thanks for clearing that one up guys.

Tom G

Not a Number · 07-30-2014, 05:12 PM

When you press the "Ok" button on the 4-way controller it changes to ISO and you can set the ISO with the front e-Dial.

8540tomg · 07-30-2014, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

When you press the "Ok" button on the 4-way controller it changes to ISO and you can set the ISO with the front e-Dial.

Thanks mon ami.

I'll check that out as I get reacquainted with my K10.

Still a pretty good camera.

Tom G

Alcazar · 07-30-2014, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

When you press the "Ok" button on the 4-way controller it changes to ISO and you can set the ISO with the front e-Dial.

Ha! I didn't know that. Thanks to you i find out new things about my K10D still after 7 years :-)

stevebrot · 07-30-2014, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Alcazar

Ha! I didn't know that. Thanks to you i find out new things about my K10D still after 7 years :-)

I found it out only a few weeks before I sold my K10D.

Steve

Brooke Meyer · 07-30-2014, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by 8540tomg

Really - a shot counter. I never realized that.

I looked in the manual under shot counter and counter and found nothing.

I haven't used the K10 for quite a while as I use the K5 almost all the time.

I guess I got used to seeing the ISO setting in the K5 panel in that area.

Good to know nothing is wrong.

In my defense the guy at Henry's Camera in Waterloo couldn't figure it out either. Still feel pretty dumb though.

I should have come straight to the Forum. All the experts are found here.

Thanks for clearing that one up guys.

Tom G

The counter is a conservative " guesstimate". My K5/K5IIs will show "464" with an empty 16Gb Card but I'll typically get about 600+ DNGS. 64Gb Cards display "1844" and I've done 2400+. It depends on how high frequency the detail is in the image.

The counter is something I always keep an eye on when shooting two performances, matinee and evening. Changing cards in the dark is not recommended. One slip and a days work is under a seat 3 rows away. With my luck, its stuck to a shoe that's walking out of the theater ;-)

Not a Number · 07-30-2014, 09:48 PM

The ISO shows in the viewfinder too. A nice, quick way to see what it is set to is just to press the "OK" button.

07-30-2014, 02:49 PM	#1
8540tomg Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,461	K10D ISO question Hi all, I just noticed something odd in the LCD panel on the top of my K10. In the lower right quadrant I normally used to see the ISO setting. For some reason I have a number showing which seems unrelated to ISO. It is counting backwards from 827, one shot at a time as I trip the shutter. I have set the ISO to 100 and taken a few shots. The images are properly exposed and show ISO 100 in the EXIF but the 827 number returns and starts counting down again. I don't see anything in the K10 Operating Manual regarding this issue. Here are the steps I've taken so far: I have deleted all images on the card and reformatted it. I removed the card and rebooted the camera. I turned it off, reinserted the card and turned it on again. It's the old turn it off and on again trick that often works with computers. No luck. I have restored the original factory settings. The battery is fully charged. I have tried different settings: M, SV, TV, AV TAV, and P I am running the most recent update for the K10. Makes no difference whether I am using a DA lens or an old M series lens. Makes no difference whether the camera is set to auto or manual. Other than this glitch everything else seems normal. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks Tom G Last edited by 8540tomg; 07-30-2014 at 03:18 PM. Reason: typo

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07-30-2014, 03:24 PM	#2
Alcazar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 210	it's the number of shots that you can take before your card is full :-) quite useful feature actually

07-30-2014, 03:32 PM	#3
Joel B Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barnett MO. Photos: Albums Posts: 2,336	Yep that's a shot counter. Now you said it used to show your iso there? I wonder if the latest firmware upgrade changed the use of that section of the lcd. My k100D has always had the counter there even with firmware upgrades. Send Adam a shout out, maybe he'll know.

07-30-2014, 03:32 PM	#4
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,888	I don't recall ever seeing the ISO here, unless you are adjusting it in TAv mode perhaps

07-30-2014, 03:55 PM	#5
8540tomg Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,461 Original Poster	Really - a shot counter. I never realized that. I looked in the manual under shot counter and counter and found nothing. I haven't used the K10 for quite a while as I use the K5 almost all the time. I guess I got used to seeing the ISO setting in the K5 panel in that area. Good to know nothing is wrong. In my defense the guy at Henry's Camera in Waterloo couldn't figure it out either. Still feel pretty dumb though. I should have come straight to the Forum. All the experts are found here. Thanks for clearing that one up guys. Tom G

07-30-2014, 05:12 PM	#6
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	When you press the "Ok" button on the 4-way controller it changes to ISO and you can set the ISO with the front e-Dial.

07-30-2014, 05:27 PM	#7
8540tomg Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,461 Original Poster	Originally posted by Not a Number When you press the "Ok" button on the 4-way controller it changes to ISO and you can set the ISO with the front e-Dial. Thanks mon ami. I'll check that out as I get reacquainted with my K10. Still a pretty good camera. Tom G

07-30-2014, 06:18 PM	#8
Alcazar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 210	Originally posted by Not a Number When you press the "Ok" button on the 4-way controller it changes to ISO and you can set the ISO with the front e-Dial. Ha! I didn't know that. Thanks to you i find out new things about my K10D still after 7 years :-)

07-30-2014, 07:22 PM	#9
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Alcazar Ha! I didn't know that. Thanks to you i find out new things about my K10D still after 7 years :-) I found it out only a few weeks before I sold my K10D. Steve

07-30-2014, 08:56 PM	#10
Brooke Meyer Guest	Originally posted by 8540tomg Really - a shot counter. I never realized that. I looked in the manual under shot counter and counter and found nothing. I haven't used the K10 for quite a while as I use the K5 almost all the time. I guess I got used to seeing the ISO setting in the K5 panel in that area. Good to know nothing is wrong. In my defense the guy at Henry's Camera in Waterloo couldn't figure it out either. Still feel pretty dumb though. I should have come straight to the Forum. All the experts are found here. Thanks for clearing that one up guys. Tom G The counter is a conservative " guesstimate". My K5/K5IIs will show "464" with an empty 16Gb Card but I'll typically get about 600+ DNGS. 64Gb Cards display "1844" and I've done 2400+. It depends on how high frequency the detail is in the image. The counter is something I always keep an eye on when shooting two performances, matinee and evening. Changing cards in the dark is not recommended. One slip and a days work is under a seat 3 rows away. With my luck, its stuck to a shoe that's walking out of the theater ;-)

07-30-2014, 09:48 PM	#11
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	The ISO shows in the viewfinder too. A nice, quick way to see what it is set to is just to press the "OK" button.