Death in the Pentax Family

**Tonytee** · 11-25-2015, 09:21 PM

Sad to say, it happened about one hour ago. It has taken that long for me to get over my grief. My Pentax AF280T, has, unfortunately, kicked the bucket, bought the farm and is now pushing up daisies. As Tesio in The Godfather would say,"He sleeps with the fishes."

)) In all my years in photography this is the first time a piece of equipment has up and died on me. I suspect the circuits are fried. One interesting point, is that my Nikon SB-24 is totally compatible with my Pentax K100D Super Camera as long as I use it on Manual and set the camera on manual. P-TTL is not compatible with Nikon TTL. Anyway, just a happy note that I do not have to spend money on a new flash unit.

Thanks,

Tonytee

bertwert · 11-25-2015, 09:25 PM

RIP

Davidparis · 11-26-2015, 12:11 AM

Just in time for a black friday deal...

**WPRESTO** · 11-26-2015, 04:32 AM

Must be something going around older equipment. My faithful Sekonic light meter recently went blank-LCD. Tried and tried to resuscitate it with new batteries, desperately cleaned contacts, but no response. It served me when center-weighted averaging did not, and gave a start for studio flash set-ups. Small, convenient, trustworthy. Could another take its place? Not yet. Too soon.

pathdoc · 11-26-2015, 04:48 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Davidparis

Just in time for a black friday deal...

Ever the optimist.

You Tube

Imp · 11-26-2015, 05:17 AM

If only cameras could sing...

MPrince · 11-26-2015, 06:02 AM

Your SB-24 should also work in auto mode on camera.

royden · 11-27-2015, 08:15 AM

Forgive me for highjacking. Been searching and can't find an answer. Would a Yongnuo..YN 560 lll or lV work on a Pentax, Canon or Nikon?

Belcik · 11-27-2015, 08:23 AM

Yes, in manual.

**Tonytee** · 11-27-2015, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by royden

Forgive me for highjacking. Been searching and can't find an answer. Would a Yongnuo..YN 560 lll or lV work on a Pentax, Canon or Nikon?

I have had both models of that brand name and experienced no problems at all. I have used them on all of my cameras, film and digital and they worked flawlessly. Hope this helps.

Tonytee

royden · 11-27-2015, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Belcik

Yes, in manual.

Thanks Belcik. I was just reading the Amazon listing for the 560 lll and saw where it will work on any camera with a hot shoe and I figured it would be manual only. Would I be better off with a unit that's TTL? Back in the 70's I had a Vivitar 283(I think) and had a lot of misses. But that was film. With digital I could shoot again and again. I'd appreciate your thoughts on manual vs TTL. With manual I could use the same flash on my Pentax and on my Canon.

---------- Post added 11-27-15 at 09:46 PM ----------

Originally posted by Tonytee

I have had both models of that brand name and experienced no problems at all. I have used them on all of my cameras, film and digital and they worked flawlessly. Hope this helps.

Tonytee

Thanks Tonytee, Feel free to chime in on my ? in previous post

royden · 11-27-2015, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by royden

Thanks Belcik. I was just reading the Amazon listing for the 560 lll and saw where it will work on any camera with a hot shoe and I figured it would be manual only. Would I be better off with a unit that's TTL? Back in the 70's I had a Vivitar 283(I think) and had a lot of misses. But that was film. With digital I could shoot again and again. I'd appreciate your thoughts on manual vs TTL. With manual I could use the same flash on my Pentax and on my Canon.

---------- Post added 11-27-15 at 09:46 PM ----------

Thanks Tonytee, Feel free to chime in on my ? in previous post

Below is an email from the manufacturer. What the heck?

Dear User,

Thanks for your email!
At present, YONGNUO products are mainly designed and developed for Canon and Nikon. For we haven't tested YN560III with Pentax DSLRs, we are sorry that we are not sure if they are compatible. If necessary, please take your camera to a physical store and test with YONGNUO products before purchase.
We sincerely sorry for the inconvenience brings you and thank you very much for your kind understanding!

Best regards,

YONGNUO

**Tonytee** · 11-27-2015, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by royden

Thanks Belcik. I was just reading the Amazon listing for the 560 lll and saw where it will work on any camera with a hot shoe and I figured it would be manual only. Would I be better off with a unit that's TTL? Back in the 70's I had a Vivitar 283(I think) and had a lot of misses. But that was film. With digital I could shoot again and again. I'd appreciate your thoughts on manual vs TTL. With manual I could use the same flash on my Pentax and on my Canon.

---------- Post added 11-27-15 at 09:46 PM ----------

Thanks Tonytee, Feel free to chime in on my ? in previous post

Okay I decided to return to the drawing board. I set my Nikon SB-24 ISO 200, aperture at f/8 and zoom at 85 mm.
My Pentax K100D super Camera at ISO 200, shutter dial set at Autopict. From there I went into my light less living room, aimed the camera at a very dark spot, slowly pressed the shutter release. The flash fired as expected, however, the plot thickens here, the shutter speed was set at 4 and aperture at f/4 according to the info in the viewfinder, so what happened was, the shutter remained open for approximately 5 seconds after the flash did its job. Needless to say the photo was overexposed. I forgot to mention that the flash was set at the TTL position. So, again trying to manipulate the flash and camera to work the way I wanted them to, I reset everything back to manual and the pics came out just fine. Here is another thought. I believe that a serious photographer should stick to the dedicated devices that are manufactured for the express use of same brand equipment. Sure, it will cost more, but here is one consolation: Let's say you purchase new a Nikon SB-whatever flash unit and it malfunctions. You return it to Nikon and they cannot claim that the reason for the malfunction was because you used it on a camera it was not made to be used with. They will find any excuse to get out of warranty work. I know because my wife had that very same problem with Nikon. Speaking for myself, the SB-24 will stay with my Nikon Digital Camera. As for the Pentax, it has a very good onboard flash unit that I try not to use frequently because it has an insatiable appetite for batteries. Well, I hope this helps.

Rgds,

Tonytee

**ivanvernon** · 11-27-2015, 10:35 PM

I use old flashes with voltage protectors with my K-3, K-5II, K-7, and K-20. I use manual flash by choice almost entirely despite having Pentax P-TTL available. I bought up a batch of hammerhead Sunpaks, the venerable 522 mostly, mostly for around $20-$35 each, and it is one of these that just died on me. It died slowly and painfully as its flash output slowly diminished. Last words to me were, "If you would only give me 6 more new batteries," but I summoned up the courage to respond that new batteries are not helping, and you must be over 40 years old anyway. 40 years calendar is almost 100 years old in camera gear years!

**Tonytee** · 11-28-2015, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by ivanvernon

I use old flashes with voltage protectors with my K-3, K-5II, K-7, and K-20. I use manual flash by choice almost entirely despite having Pentax P-TTL available. I bought up a batch of hammerhead Sunpaks, the venerable 522 mostly, mostly for around $20-$35 each, and it is one of these that just died on me. It died slowly and painfully as its flash output slowly diminished. Last words to me were, "If you would only give me 6 more new batteries," but I summoned up the courage to respond that new batteries are not helping, and you must be over 40 years old anyway. 40 years calendar is almost 100 years old in camera gear years!

Very good sir. I must admit, that was cold, very cold. Heck I am willing to bet the farm that you did not even try mouth to mouth. Didya? Didya? Nooooooooooooo. Thanks again, very funny.

Tonytee

11-25-2015, 09:21 PM	#1
Tonytee Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 21,526	Death in the Pentax Family Sad to say, it happened about one hour ago. It has taken that long for me to get over my grief. My Pentax AF280T, has, unfortunately, kicked the bucket, bought the farm and is now pushing up daisies. As Tesio in The Godfather would say,"He sleeps with the fishes." )) In all my years in photography this is the first time a piece of equipment has up and died on me. I suspect the circuits are fried. One interesting point, is that my Nikon SB-24 is totally compatible with my Pentax K100D Super Camera as long as I use it on Manual and set the camera on manual. P-TTL is not compatible with Nikon TTL. Anyway, just a happy note that I do not have to spend money on a new flash unit. Thanks, Tonytee

11-27-2015, 10:35 PM	#14
ivanvernon Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina, OH Photos: Albums Posts: 7,224	Another death not so Pentax I use old flashes with voltage protectors with my K-3, K-5II, K-7, and K-20. I use manual flash by choice almost entirely despite having Pentax P-TTL available. I bought up a batch of hammerhead Sunpaks, the venerable 522 mostly, mostly for around $20-$35 each, and it is one of these that just died on me. It died slowly and painfully as its flash output slowly diminished. Last words to me were, "If you would only give me 6 more new batteries," but I summoned up the courage to respond that new batteries are not helping, and you must be over 40 years old anyway. 40 years calendar is almost 100 years old in camera gear years!

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royden Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Atlanta, Ga Photos: Gallery Posts: 297	Forgive me for highjacking. Been searching and can't find an answer. Would a Yongnuo..YN 560 lll or lV work on a Pentax, Canon or Nikon?

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Tonytee Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 21,526 Original Poster	Originally posted by royden Forgive me for highjacking. Been searching and can't find an answer. Would a Yongnuo..YN 560 lll or lV work on a Pentax, Canon or Nikon? I have had both models of that brand name and experienced no problems at all. I have used them on all of my cameras, film and digital and they worked flawlessly. Hope this helps. Tonytee

11-27-2015, 07:43 PM	#11
royden Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Atlanta, Ga Photos: Gallery Posts: 297	Originally posted by Belcik Yes, in manual. Thanks Belcik. I was just reading the Amazon listing for the 560 lll and saw where it will work on any camera with a hot shoe and I figured it would be manual only. Would I be better off with a unit that's TTL? Back in the 70's I had a Vivitar 283(I think) and had a lot of misses. But that was film. With digital I could shoot again and again. I'd appreciate your thoughts on manual vs TTL. With manual I could use the same flash on my Pentax and on my Canon. ---------- Post added 11-27-15 at 09:46 PM ---------- Originally posted by Tonytee I have had both models of that brand name and experienced no problems at all. I have used them on all of my cameras, film and digital and they worked flawlessly. Hope this helps. Tonytee Thanks Tonytee, Feel free to chime in on my ? in previous post

11-27-2015, 09:48 PM	#12
royden Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Atlanta, Ga Photos: Gallery Posts: 297	Originally posted by royden Thanks Belcik. I was just reading the Amazon listing for the 560 lll and saw where it will work on any camera with a hot shoe and I figured it would be manual only. Would I be better off with a unit that's TTL? Back in the 70's I had a Vivitar 283(I think) and had a lot of misses. But that was film. With digital I could shoot again and again. I'd appreciate your thoughts on manual vs TTL. With manual I could use the same flash on my Pentax and on my Canon. ---------- Post added 11-27-15 at 09:46 PM ---------- Thanks Tonytee, Feel free to chime in on my ? in previous post Below is an email from the manufacturer. What the heck? Dear User, Thanks for your email! At present, YONGNUO products are mainly designed and developed for Canon and Nikon. For we haven't tested YN560III with Pentax DSLRs, we are sorry that we are not sure if they are compatible. If necessary, please take your camera to a physical store and test with YONGNUO products before purchase. We sincerely sorry for the inconvenience brings you and thank you very much for your kind understanding! Best regards, YONGNUO

11-27-2015, 10:14 PM	#13
Tonytee Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 21,526 Original Poster	Originally posted by royden Thanks Belcik. I was just reading the Amazon listing for the 560 lll and saw where it will work on any camera with a hot shoe and I figured it would be manual only. Would I be better off with a unit that's TTL? Back in the 70's I had a Vivitar 283(I think) and had a lot of misses. But that was film. With digital I could shoot again and again. I'd appreciate your thoughts on manual vs TTL. With manual I could use the same flash on my Pentax and on my Canon. ---------- Post added 11-27-15 at 09:46 PM ---------- Thanks Tonytee, Feel free to chime in on my ? in previous post Okay I decided to return to the drawing board. I set my Nikon SB-24 ISO 200, aperture at f/8 and zoom at 85 mm. My Pentax K100D super Camera at ISO 200, shutter dial set at Autopict. From there I went into my light less living room, aimed the camera at a very dark spot, slowly pressed the shutter release. The flash fired as expected, however, the plot thickens here, the shutter speed was set at 4 and aperture at f/4 according to the info in the viewfinder, so what happened was, the shutter remained open for approximately 5 seconds after the flash did its job. Needless to say the photo was overexposed. I forgot to mention that the flash was set at the TTL position. So, again trying to manipulate the flash and camera to work the way I wanted them to, I reset everything back to manual and the pics came out just fine. Here is another thought. I believe that a serious photographer should stick to the dedicated devices that are manufactured for the express use of same brand equipment. Sure, it will cost more, but here is one consolation: Let's say you purchase new a Nikon SB-whatever flash unit and it malfunctions. You return it to Nikon and they cannot claim that the reason for the malfunction was because you used it on a camera it was not made to be used with. They will find any excuse to get out of warranty work. I know because my wife had that very same problem with Nikon. Speaking for myself, the SB-24 will stay with my Nikon Digital Camera. As for the Pentax, it has a very good onboard flash unit that I try not to use frequently because it has an insatiable appetite for batteries. Well, I hope this helps. Rgds, Tonytee

11-28-2015, 12:27 AM	#15
Tonytee Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 21,526 Original Poster	Originally posted by ivanvernon I use old flashes with voltage protectors with my K-3, K-5II, K-7, and K-20. I use manual flash by choice almost entirely despite having Pentax P-TTL available. I bought up a batch of hammerhead Sunpaks, the venerable 522 mostly, mostly for around $20-$35 each, and it is one of these that just died on me. It died slowly and painfully as its flash output slowly diminished. Last words to me were, "If you would only give me 6 more new batteries," but I summoned up the courage to respond that new batteries are not helping, and you must be over 40 years old anyway. 40 years calendar is almost 100 years old in camera gear years! Very good sir. I must admit, that was cold, very cold. Heck I am willing to bet the farm that you did not even try mouth to mouth. Didya? Didya? Nooooooooooooo. Thanks again, very funny. Tonytee