Surprises at Salon de la Photo, Paris (7 november)

asahi man · 11-04-2013, 03:20 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by monochrome

Weren't there rumors of a f/2.8 Medium Zoom (DA*?) That just dropped out of the backchatter completely.

Converter and 2,8 18-70 maybe

Best regards

**monochrome** · 11-04-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by asahi man

Converter and 2,8 18-70 maybe

Best regards

Ok Mods. You can close the thread now. Speculation is over.

asahi man · 11-04-2013, 03:24 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by monochrome

hahahahahahahahahaha

The planed 645II for end of 2013 is stopped,Ricoh is fixing it like the K-3 old (Pentax) to the K-3 (Ricoh)

And it looks like,the 35mm project is top in target.

Best regards

**monochrome** · 11-04-2013, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by asahi man

The planed 645II for end of 2013 is stopped,Ricoh is fixing it like the K-3 old (Pentax) to the K-3 (Ricoh)

And it looks like,the 35mm project is top in target.

Best regards

I have now heard three times that Ricoh has stopped (Pentax) projects in process to rework and make them better (Ricoh) products. This first came in a high-level, private conversation about the vacuum of information and products in the spring and summer. I am seriously, deeply encouraged to hear this again. It fits my concept of where Ricoh wants to take Pentax and it fits the overall culture of quality of Ricoh globally. I am convinced we are going to be very happy and I believe we will see a significant new product or a rework of several existing products announced monthly for a few YEARS.

Last edited by monochrome; 11-04-2013 at 04:07 PM.

Doundounba · 11-04-2013, 03:33 PM

Wow, if it's converter + 18-70 F/2.8 + 20-40 Limited, Ricoh/Pentax is really swinging for the fences!

asahi man · 11-04-2013, 03:37 PM

I know that K-3,converter,645II and the Limited zoom were changed to the old Pentax plan mit 2012.
The * Line is maybe off,cause * means in this time SDM!!! and the highest quality,but SDM is the motordrive......so,we think SDM will come again in a complete new productline.

Looks like new stuff is to see @ CP+.

**monochrome** · 11-04-2013, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by asahi man

The planed 645II for end of 2013 is stopped,Ricoh is fixing it like the K-3 old (Pentax) to the K-3 (Ricoh)

And it looks like,the 35mm project is top in target.

Best regards

Oh you misunderstood - I was laughing at the Duh duh DUUUHHHHHH in the prior post - which is a "scare tone" in bad TV mystery serials here. I think the OP used it sarcastically, so I laughed.

asahi man · 11-04-2013, 03:41 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Doundounba

Wow, if it's converter + 18-70 F/2.8 + 20-40 Limited, Ricoh/Pentax is really swinging for the fences!

I have still 2 informations.....
2,8-4,0 18-70 range and 2,8 18-70 range.
Same with the Limited zoom.I know about since month that is in production,but didn´t know that it is DC and WR

So,nice to see that it is DC and WR

Ricoh is strong,but a good powerup to Pentax

Better than the HOYA way

asahi man · 11-04-2013, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Oh you misunderstood - I was laughing at the Duh duh DUUUHHHHHH in the prior post - which is a "scare tone" in bad TV mystery serials here. I think the OP used it sarcastically, so I laughed.

**eonb** · 11-04-2013, 03:50 PM

1.4x tele as long as it's weather sealed. 120-380 zoom would be lovely as I need something longer than the 60-250 DA*, but needs to be weather sealed.

asahi man · 11-04-2013, 03:59 PM - **2 Likes**

Looks like 2 new telelenses/telezoom next first half of the year.
Every new Lens in higher grade is WR in future.
Only cheap kits are without WR,still.
Maybe Ricoh goes to 100% WR.

bobmaxja · 11-04-2013, 04:07 PM

DA 18-55 is avalable in WR . Also the DA 55-300 and they are entry lenses

asahi man · 11-04-2013, 05:03 PM

That´s right,but look to the K-500 and the Kitlenses.
I think it is the last Not WR camera and will be replaced mid 2014.
Latest @ next Photokina.

starbase218 · 11-04-2013, 05:21 PM

Before anyone assumes anything, the f/2.8 on the supposed 18-70mm lens is only rumor. When it first came onto the roadmap, it was a DA* lens, and that's why people assumed it was going to be f/2.8. I seriously doubt that, though; there are no other constant f/2.8 zooms covering that range. And if there would be, they would probably be heavy and big - something Pentax is not known for.

I think there are 2 possibilities: it will either be an f/2.8 zoom with a more limited range (maybe a successor to the 16-50), or it will be a slower zoom (maybe to replace the 17-70).

**Rorschach** · 11-04-2013, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by asahi man

Looks like 2 new telelenses/telezoom next first half of the year.
Every new Lens in higher grade is WR in future.
Only cheap kits are without WR,still.
Maybe Ricoh goes to 100% WR.

You are the bringer of great news :-) If I ever meet you, you can count on a few beers!

11-04-2013, 03:33 PM	#35
Doundounba Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Montréal QC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,351	Wow, if it's converter + 18-70 F/2.8 + 20-40 Limited, Ricoh/Pentax is really swinging for the fences! Last edited by Doundounba; 11-04-2013 at 03:34 PM. Reason: fences not fence

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11-04-2013, 03:20 PM - 3 Likes	#31
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Originally posted by monochrome Weren't there rumors of a f/2.8 Medium Zoom (DA*?) That just dropped out of the backchatter completely. Converter and 2,8 18-70 maybe Best regards

11-04-2013, 03:21 PM	#32
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by asahi man Converter and 2,8 18-70 maybe Best regards Ok Mods. You can close the thread now. Speculation is over.

11-04-2013, 03:24 PM - 2 Likes	#33
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Originally posted by monochrome hahahahahahahahahaha The planed 645II for end of 2013 is stopped,Ricoh is fixing it like the K-3 old (Pentax) to the K-3 (Ricoh) And it looks like,the 35mm project is top in target. Best regards

11-04-2013, 03:31 PM	#34
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by asahi man The planed 645II for end of 2013 is stopped,Ricoh is fixing it like the K-3 old (Pentax) to the K-3 (Ricoh) And it looks like,the 35mm project is top in target. Best regards I have now heard three times that Ricoh has stopped (Pentax) projects in process to rework and make them better (Ricoh) products. This first came in a high-level, private conversation about the vacuum of information and products in the spring and summer. I am seriously, deeply encouraged to hear this again. It fits my concept of where Ricoh wants to take Pentax and it fits the overall culture of quality of Ricoh globally. I am convinced we are going to be very happy and I believe we will see a significant new product or a rework of several existing products announced monthly for a few YEARS. Last edited by monochrome; 11-04-2013 at 04:07 PM.

11-04-2013, 03:37 PM	#36
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	I know that K-3,converter,645II and the Limited zoom were changed to the old Pentax plan mit 2012. The * Line is maybe off,cause * means in this time SDM!!! and the highest quality,but SDM is the motordrive......so,we think SDM will come again in a complete new productline. Looks like new stuff is to see @ CP+.

11-04-2013, 03:38 PM	#37
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by asahi man The planed 645II for end of 2013 is stopped,Ricoh is fixing it like the K-3 old (Pentax) to the K-3 (Ricoh) And it looks like,the 35mm project is top in target. Best regards Oh you misunderstood - I was laughing at the Duh duh DUUUHHHHHH in the prior post - which is a "scare tone" in bad TV mystery serials here. I think the OP used it sarcastically, so I laughed.

11-04-2013, 03:41 PM - 1 Like	#38
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Originally posted by Doundounba Wow, if it's converter + 18-70 F/2.8 + 20-40 Limited, Ricoh/Pentax is really swinging for the fences! I have still 2 informations..... 2,8-4,0 18-70 range and 2,8 18-70 range. Same with the Limited zoom.I know about since month that is in production,but didn´t know that it is DC and WR So,nice to see that it is DC and WR Ricoh is strong,but a good powerup to Pentax Better than the HOYA way

11-04-2013, 03:42 PM	#39
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Originally posted by monochrome Oh you misunderstood - I was laughing at the Duh duh DUUUHHHHHH in the prior post - which is a "scare tone" in bad TV mystery serials here. I think the OP used it sarcastically, so I laughed.

11-04-2013, 03:50 PM	#40
eonb Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: North-East England Posts: 73	1.4x tele as long as it's weather sealed. 120-380 zoom would be lovely as I need something longer than the 60-250 DA*, but needs to be weather sealed.

11-04-2013, 03:59 PM - 2 Likes	#41
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Looks like 2 new telelenses/telezoom next first half of the year. Every new Lens in higher grade is WR in future. Only cheap kits are without WR,still. Maybe Ricoh goes to 100% WR.

11-04-2013, 04:07 PM	#42
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	DA 18-55 is avalable in WR . Also the DA 55-300 and they are entry lenses

11-04-2013, 05:03 PM	#43
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	That´s right,but look to the K-500 and the Kitlenses. I think it is the last Not WR camera and will be replaced mid 2014. Latest @ next Photokina.

11-04-2013, 05:21 PM	#44
starbase218 Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy, Universe Posts: 1,119	Before anyone assumes anything, the f/2.8 on the supposed 18-70mm lens is only rumor. When it first came onto the roadmap, it was a DA* lens, and that's why people assumed it was going to be f/2.8. I seriously doubt that, though; there are no other constant f/2.8 zooms covering that range. And if there would be, they would probably be heavy and big - something Pentax is not known for. I think there are 2 possibilities: it will either be an f/2.8 zoom with a more limited range (maybe a successor to the 16-50), or it will be a slower zoom (maybe to replace the 17-70).

11-04-2013, 05:24 PM	#45
Rorschach Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kuusamo, Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 652	Originally posted by asahi man Looks like 2 new telelenses/telezoom next first half of the year. Every new Lens in higher grade is WR in future. Only cheap kits are without WR,still. Maybe Ricoh goes to 100% WR. You are the bringer of great news :-) If I ever meet you, you can count on a few beers!