Some Crappy shots of the new FF Camera

hinman · 10-22-2015, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

On the top dial they have: Bracket, HDR, Crop, SR (shake reduction), but no PS (Pixel Shift). If this new camera has PS, it would have made sense to put it on this dial. Maybe this new full frame will not have PS???

There are few labels that seem intriguing but not obvious to me

Picture copied from Rico on Page 4

Wifi
Crop
SR
Grid (?)
HDR
BKT
CH/CL (? something high/low)
ISO
+/- (?)

ISO function seems redundant. Pixel Shift will be quite awesome if it is made available on the FF model. Any K3 II owners can share if any of the above labels make sense for Pixel Shift dial?

Happy Guessing,
Hin

Last edited by hinman; 10-22-2015 at 07:37 PM.

DennisH · 10-22-2015, 07:29 PM

Who's going to be the first to make a stale disco light joke?

rawr · 10-22-2015, 07:30 PM - **2 Likes**

Looking at the top plate, I guess the two wheel control will work like this:

Wheel 1. Select an option (EV, ISO, Ch/Cl, Bracket, HDR, Grid, SR, Crop, WiFi)
Wheel 2. Toggle through the options available for your selection in Wheel 1, with the options displayed on the top LCD.

Ch/Cl is Continuous High/ Continuous Low, in Nikon speak. Shooting mode.

Grid would be grid display options in the viewfinder. (Rule of Thirds, Square mesh etc)
Crop would be what crop mode to use (or not)
SR = SR On/Off/Panning mode?

Kharan · 10-22-2015, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by derekkite

Hmm. That back screen looks almost like it is removable and held in place on the mockup by some wires or something. That would be cool. Instead of a screen, a monitor. A two hand plus eye or face stabilized where you can position the monitor to see the scene in live view or movie mode? I get the immersion something different will be presented, different from other market offerings.

Two mode buttons and three dials. Is there a button on the top of the dial to the right of the top LCD?

Isn't the Ricoh GR extensively customizable? I wonder if some of that will show up here.

Edit. Now I see how they did the articulating screen.

CH/CL?

Continuous high/low? But, it looks just like on Nikon models, where the small dial *beneath* the 3rd e-dial control wheel is for drive mode, I'd say. Because that dial, with all the acronyms, is to control the function of the third wheel.

The FF looks AMAZING. It'll generate a ton of hype now, so I hope Ricoh can handle (and exploit) it!

---------- Post added 10-22-15 at 10:37 PM ----------

Originally posted by hinman

There are few labels that seem intriguing but not obvious to me

Picture copied from Rico on Page 4

Wifi
Crop
SR
Grid (?)
HDR
BKT
CH/CL (? channel or clipping high/low)
ISO
+/- (?)

ISO function seems redundant. Pixel Shift will be quite awesome if it is made available on the FF model. Any K3 II owners can share if any of the above labels make sense for Pixel Shift dial?

Happy Guessing,
Hin

Let's play! This thing modifies the function of the third e-dial, I'm quite sure. So, you can change ISO, exp. compensation (+/-), bracket mode, HDR strength, WiFi on/off, crop mode on/off, SR mode, maybe drive or focus priority, and grid line display on the (finally!) intelligent viewfinder.

Rico · 10-22-2015, 07:39 PM - **2 Likes**

Here is another back view...

This image you can see the dial next to the Prism housing in front of the top LCD there is a toggle switch for still and movie modes.

The articulating rear screen looks to be able to move in a more 3D fashion than just linear i.e. tilt up or down.

The size doesn't seem that overwhelming over the K-5 I was using. The real difference is the height of the FF. The width and depth are close.

There certainly are a lot of buttons on this camera. I only shoot in manual mode.

No word on specs.

Used a K-5 and my trusty SMC Pentax-A 1:2 28mm to take the images of the full frame. f8 1/50s iso 3200

shakereduced · 10-22-2015, 07:39 PM

SR . . .

Could that wonky slideshow that leaked last week be true? I thought the slide was a fake, but could that SR setting = Super Resolution?

rawr · 10-22-2015, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Rico

Here is another back view...

What does 'Fx2' refer to?

And notice how subtle the switch is for video/stills up top. Highlighting video as a lesser priority?

Note too the swap around of the Playback button with the LV button.

DennisH · 10-22-2015, 07:48 PM

Wasn't someone here hoping for a button to protect (lock) photos on the memory card? Looks like it on the front by the AF mode button.

hinman · 10-22-2015, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by rawr

What does 'Fx2' refer to?

And notice how subtle the switch is for video/stills up top. Highlighting video as a lesser priority?

Note too the swap around of the Playback button with the LV button.

I can't find any video icon on the top left dial.

Hin

stillshot2 · 10-22-2015, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by rawr

Looking at the top plate, I guess the two wheel control will work like this:

Wheel 1. Select an option (EV, ISO, Ch/Cl, Bracket, HDR, Grid, SR, Crop, WiFi)
Wheel 2. Toggle through the options available for your selection in Wheel 1, with the options displayed on the top LCD.

Ch/Cl is Continuous High/ Continuous Low, in Nikon speak. Shooting mode.

Grid would be grid display options in the viewfinder. (Rule of Thirds, Square mesh etc)
Crop would be what crop mode to use (or not)
SR = SR On/Off/Panning mode?

This ^

derekkite · 10-22-2015, 07:54 PM

Fx-2? LV button on the left side. The focus point select toggle is easier to find with your thumb. On the left side above the mf/AF toggle there is a Lock button?

Uluru · 10-22-2015, 07:56 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by DennisH

Wasn't someone here hoping for a button to protect (lock) photos on the memory card? Looks like it on the front by the AF mode button.

No, that's a parking mode.
You can leave camera in the open, and lock it, go take some drinks. Whoever touches it, the alarm goes off and the police arrives in 1/8000 of a second.

derekkite · 10-22-2015, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by hinman

I can't find any video icon on the top left dial.

Hin

There is a lever below the right dial beside the viewfinder hump.

K David · 10-22-2015, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by rawr

Wheel 1. Select an option (EV, ISO, Ch/Cl, Bracket, HDR, Grid, SR, Crop, WiFi)
Wheel 2. Toggle through the options available for your selection in Wheel 1, with the options displayed on the top LCD.

My thought, too.

Originally posted by Rico

This image you can see the dial next to the Prism housing in front of the top LCD there is a toggle switch for still and movie modes.

That's a pixel shift icon on the bottom button of the control pad! That should make pixel shift a lot more accessible.

---------- Post added 10-22-15 at 07:58 PM ----------

I'm going to miss the K-3's movie-still switch. I love that feature.

One3rdEV · 10-22-2015, 07:58 PM

Still / Video mode switch is located on the top plate, grip side of the prism, at bottom of taller dial and actuated by a lever.

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10-22-2015, 07:28 PM	#76
hinman Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fremont, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,473	Originally posted by Fenwoodian On the top dial they have: Bracket, HDR, Crop, SR (shake reduction), but no PS (Pixel Shift). If this new camera has PS, it would have made sense to put it on this dial. Maybe this new full frame will not have PS??? There are few labels that seem intriguing but not obvious to me Picture copied from Rico on Page 4 Wifi Crop SR Grid (?) HDR BKT CH/CL (? something high/low) ISO +/- (?) ISO function seems redundant. Pixel Shift will be quite awesome if it is made available on the FF model. Any K3 II owners can share if any of the above labels make sense for Pixel Shift dial? Happy Guessing, Hin Last edited by hinman; 10-22-2015 at 07:37 PM.

10-22-2015, 07:29 PM	#77
DennisH Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stratford, CT Photos: Gallery Posts: 730	Who's going to be the first to make a stale disco light joke?

10-22-2015, 07:30 PM - 2 Likes	#78
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Looking at the top plate, I guess the two wheel control will work like this: Wheel 1. Select an option (EV, ISO, Ch/Cl, Bracket, HDR, Grid, SR, Crop, WiFi) Wheel 2. Toggle through the options available for your selection in Wheel 1, with the options displayed on the top LCD. Ch/Cl is Continuous High/ Continuous Low, in Nikon speak. Shooting mode. Grid would be grid display options in the viewfinder. (Rule of Thirds, Square mesh etc) Crop would be what crop mode to use (or not) SR = SR On/Off/Panning mode?

10-22-2015, 07:30 PM	#79
Kharan Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 74	Originally posted by derekkite Hmm. That back screen looks almost like it is removable and held in place on the mockup by some wires or something. That would be cool. Instead of a screen, a monitor. A two hand plus eye or face stabilized where you can position the monitor to see the scene in live view or movie mode? I get the immersion something different will be presented, different from other market offerings. Two mode buttons and three dials. Is there a button on the top of the dial to the right of the top LCD? Isn't the Ricoh GR extensively customizable? I wonder if some of that will show up here. Edit. Now I see how they did the articulating screen. CH/CL? Continuous high/low? But, it looks just like on Nikon models, where the small dial beneath the 3rd e-dial control wheel is for drive mode, I'd say. Because that dial, with all the acronyms, is to control the function of the third wheel. The FF looks AMAZING. It'll generate a ton of hype now, so I hope Ricoh can handle (and exploit) it! ---------- Post added 10-22-15 at 10:37 PM ---------- Originally posted by hinman There are few labels that seem intriguing but not obvious to me Picture copied from Rico on Page 4 Wifi Crop SR Grid (?) HDR BKT CH/CL (? channel or clipping high/low) ISO +/- (?) ISO function seems redundant. Pixel Shift will be quite awesome if it is made available on the FF model. Any K3 II owners can share if any of the above labels make sense for Pixel Shift dial? Happy Guessing, Hin Let's play! This thing modifies the function of the third e-dial, I'm quite sure. So, you can change ISO, exp. compensation (+/-), bracket mode, HDR strength, WiFi on/off, crop mode on/off, SR mode, maybe drive or focus priority, and grid line display on the (finally!) intelligent viewfinder.

10-22-2015, 07:39 PM - 2 Likes	#80
Rico Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,205	Here is another back view... This image you can see the dial next to the Prism housing in front of the top LCD there is a toggle switch for still and movie modes. The articulating rear screen looks to be able to move in a more 3D fashion than just linear i.e. tilt up or down. The size doesn't seem that overwhelming over the K-5 I was using. The real difference is the height of the FF. The width and depth are close. There certainly are a lot of buttons on this camera. I only shoot in manual mode. No word on specs. Used a K-5 and my trusty SMC Pentax-A 1:2 28mm to take the images of the full frame. f8 1/50s iso 3200

10-22-2015, 07:39 PM	#81
shakereduced Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 40	SR . . . Could that wonky slideshow that leaked last week be true? I thought the slide was a fake, but could that SR setting = Super Resolution?

10-22-2015, 07:45 PM	#82
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Rico Here is another back view... What does 'Fx2' refer to? And notice how subtle the switch is for video/stills up top. Highlighting video as a lesser priority? Note too the swap around of the Playback button with the LV button.

10-22-2015, 07:48 PM	#83
DennisH Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Stratford, CT Photos: Gallery Posts: 730	Wasn't someone here hoping for a button to protect (lock) photos on the memory card? Looks like it on the front by the AF mode button.

10-22-2015, 07:53 PM	#84
hinman Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fremont, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,473	Originally posted by rawr What does 'Fx2' refer to? And notice how subtle the switch is for video/stills up top. Highlighting video as a lesser priority? Note too the swap around of the Playback button with the LV button. I can't find any video icon on the top left dial. Hin

10-22-2015, 07:54 PM	#85
stillshot2 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Phoenix, AZ Photos: Albums Posts: 1,070	Originally posted by rawr Looking at the top plate, I guess the two wheel control will work like this: Wheel 1. Select an option (EV, ISO, Ch/Cl, Bracket, HDR, Grid, SR, Crop, WiFi) Wheel 2. Toggle through the options available for your selection in Wheel 1, with the options displayed on the top LCD. Ch/Cl is Continuous High/ Continuous Low, in Nikon speak. Shooting mode. Grid would be grid display options in the viewfinder. (Rule of Thirds, Square mesh etc) Crop would be what crop mode to use (or not) SR = SR On/Off/Panning mode? This ^

10-22-2015, 07:54 PM	#86
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Fx-2? LV button on the left side. The focus point select toggle is easier to find with your thumb. On the left side above the mf/AF toggle there is a Lock button?

10-22-2015, 07:56 PM - 1 Like	#87
Uluru Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Back to my Walkabout Creek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,535	Originally posted by DennisH Wasn't someone here hoping for a button to protect (lock) photos on the memory card? Looks like it on the front by the AF mode button. No, that's a parking mode. You can leave camera in the open, and lock it, go take some drinks. Whoever touches it, the alarm goes off and the police arrives in 1/8000 of a second.

10-22-2015, 07:56 PM	#88
derekkite Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nelson B.C. Posts: 3,782	Originally posted by hinman I can't find any video icon on the top left dial. Hin There is a lever below the right dial beside the viewfinder hump.

10-22-2015, 07:57 PM	#89
K David Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Colorado Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,437	Originally posted by rawr Wheel 1. Select an option (EV, ISO, Ch/Cl, Bracket, HDR, Grid, SR, Crop, WiFi) Wheel 2. Toggle through the options available for your selection in Wheel 1, with the options displayed on the top LCD. My thought, too. Originally posted by Rico This image you can see the dial next to the Prism housing in front of the top LCD there is a toggle switch for still and movie modes. That's a pixel shift icon on the bottom button of the control pad! That should make pixel shift a lot more accessible. ---------- Post added 10-22-15 at 07:58 PM ---------- I'm going to miss the K-3's movie-still switch. I love that feature.

10-22-2015, 07:58 PM	#90
One3rdEV Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: So-central, MI Posts: 285	Still / Video mode switch is located on the top plate, grip side of the prism, at bottom of taller dial and actuated by a lever.