oh the wait

shaolen · 05-27-2015, 01:05 PM

Waiting for this FF is killing me.

Kunzite · 05-27-2015, 01:16 PM

Don't hold your breath, hoping for an early release.

**Kerrowdown** · 05-27-2015, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by shaolen

Waiting for this FF is killing me

Relax... it's been years to get this far, the end of this year (hopefully) is not that far away now.

mechmike10 · 05-27-2015, 01:32 PM

In the tech world, this sort of product used to be called "vaporware." Frankly, I can't understand why they announced the FF at about the same time as the k-3 II. Seems to me that a lot of people will hold off on the k-3 II until they see what the FF looks like spec and price-wise.

**RobA_Oz** · 05-27-2015, 01:41 PM

Some people here will hold off, rather than upgrade to the K-3II. Experience with other brands seems to indicate that, though, the majority will not move to 35FF, and those who work at the long end of focal lengths will certainly not be changing, although they may eventually run both formats. On that basis, it's not difficult to see why they refreshed the K-3 at this point in its life cycle.

**Hattifnatt** · 05-27-2015, 01:44 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by shaolen

Waiting for this FF is killing me.

You may want to consider interstellar traveling to help with that

tvdtvdtvd · 05-27-2015, 02:13 PM

Just think: In another ten years we'll be purchasing plans to make our own cameras on our Ronco 3D printers.
And we'll be complaining about how long it takes to download the print file on a 100 Tbit connection. And in
300 years we'll be complaining about the lag time on that damn matter replicator....

Kunzite · 05-27-2015, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by mechmike10

In the tech world, this sort of product used to be called "vaporware." Frankly, I can't understand why they announced the FF at about the same time as the k-3 II. Seems to me that a lot of people will hold off on the k-3 II until they see what the FF looks like spec and price-wise.

No, "vaporware" is a product that was announced but not released nor cancelled. With the FF DSLR, they only announced that it will be done by the end of the year (estimate October/November). We cannot say it wasn't released, since the release date is still in the future.
The old FF project is not vaporware either, as it was officially canceled.

Most DSLR sales are APS-C, announcing a FF doesn't mean they should ignore the larger segment.

biz-engineer · 05-27-2015, 02:46 PM

If you wait more for something, you'll appreciate it more, and while you wait you don't spend your money. If you were with Nikon or Canon, you'd not have to wait and you'd only be limited by the money you have.
Thanks to Pentax we save a lot of money (hummm or is this more expensive to go through a K-5, then a K-5II then a K-3 then a K-3II, instead of having just bought a D800 for the same money? It's amazing how long the D800 holds its value). I think Ricoh engineering staff are completely swamped thanks to the early announcements of their marketing crew who have ambitious plans for there customers. DFA 150-450 finally reach the shops, no answer regarding the K-3 firmware v1.20 that is meant to work with the DFA 150-450. They must have serious internal engineering issues at Ricoh.

JimmyDranox · 05-27-2015, 03:10 PM

IMO, K-3II is much more a different kind of camera, for specific purpose, than an simple upgrade. So, the upcoming FF will be less afected by K-3II. But I must recognize that some people will hold, and wait to see the specifications of the FF until they will decide if they will buy K-3II or not. So, I think that K-3II will be more influenced by the waiting for FF, than the other way around.

By the way, do someone knows when those specifications for the FF will be announce?

**Pål Jensen** · 05-27-2015, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

We cannot say it wasn't released, since the release date is still in the future.
.

Maybe he have access to a time machine...

05-27-2015, 01:05 PM	#1
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047	oh the wait Waiting for this FF is killing me.

05-27-2015, 02:46 PM	#9
biz-engineer Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 12,247	If you wait more for something, you'll appreciate it more, and while you wait you don't spend your money. If you were with Nikon or Canon, you'd not have to wait and you'd only be limited by the money you have. Thanks to Pentax we save a lot of money (hummm or is this more expensive to go through a K-5, then a K-5II then a K-3 then a K-3II, instead of having just bought a D800 for the same money? It's amazing how long the D800 holds its value). I think Ricoh engineering staff are completely swamped thanks to the early announcements of their marketing crew who have ambitious plans for there customers. DFA 150-450 finally reach the shops, no answer regarding the K-3 firmware v1.20 that is meant to work with the DFA 150-450. They must have serious internal engineering issues at Ricoh. Last edited by biz-engineer; 05-27-2015 at 03:08 PM.

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05-27-2015, 01:16 PM	#2
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Don't hold your breath, hoping for an early release.

05-27-2015, 01:16 PM	#3
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,863	Originally posted by shaolen Waiting for this FF is killing me Relax... it's been years to get this far, the end of this year (hopefully) is not that far away now.

05-27-2015, 01:32 PM	#4
mechmike10 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 176	In the tech world, this sort of product used to be called "vaporware." Frankly, I can't understand why they announced the FF at about the same time as the k-3 II. Seems to me that a lot of people will hold off on the k-3 II until they see what the FF looks like spec and price-wise.

05-27-2015, 01:41 PM	#5
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Some people here will hold off, rather than upgrade to the K-3II. Experience with other brands seems to indicate that, though, the majority will not move to 35FF, and those who work at the long end of focal lengths will certainly not be changing, although they may eventually run both formats. On that basis, it's not difficult to see why they refreshed the K-3 at this point in its life cycle.

05-27-2015, 01:44 PM - 1 Like	#6
Hattifnatt Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Bucharest Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,626	Originally posted by shaolen Waiting for this FF is killing me. You may want to consider interstellar traveling to help with that

05-27-2015, 02:13 PM	#7
tvdtvdtvd Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,665	Just think: In another ten years we'll be purchasing plans to make our own cameras on our Ronco 3D printers. And we'll be complaining about how long it takes to download the print file on a 100 Tbit connection. And in 300 years we'll be complaining about the lag time on that damn matter replicator....

05-27-2015, 02:32 PM	#8
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by mechmike10 In the tech world, this sort of product used to be called "vaporware." Frankly, I can't understand why they announced the FF at about the same time as the k-3 II. Seems to me that a lot of people will hold off on the k-3 II until they see what the FF looks like spec and price-wise. No, "vaporware" is a product that was announced but not released nor cancelled. With the FF DSLR, they only announced that it will be done by the end of the year (estimate October/November). We cannot say it wasn't released, since the release date is still in the future. The old FF project is not vaporware either, as it was officially canceled. Most DSLR sales are APS-C, announcing a FF doesn't mean they should ignore the larger segment.

05-27-2015, 03:10 PM	#10
JimmyDranox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ploiesti, Romania Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,632	IMO, K-3II is much more a different kind of camera, for specific purpose, than an simple upgrade. So, the upcoming FF will be less afected by K-3II. But I must recognize that some people will hold, and wait to see the specifications of the FF until they will decide if they will buy K-3II or not. So, I think that K-3II will be more influenced by the waiting for FF, than the other way around. By the way, do someone knows when those specifications for the FF will be announce?

05-27-2015, 05:58 PM	#11
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Kunzite We cannot say it wasn't released, since the release date is still in the future. . Maybe he have access to a time machine...