how will FF improve your photography?

slip · 07-01-2015, 02:42 PM

Will having a FF sensor improve your photography?
If so, why?
I can see having better autofocus or maybe more adjustable but am trying to understand why someone would pay thousands of dollars for the body and some decent glass to match. I can see maybe a wedding photographer needing high ISO performance.
So please convince me of your need for full frame where APS-C can't give as good results

Thanks

Randy

Last edited by slip; 07-01-2015 at 03:30 PM.

**Pål Jensen** · 07-01-2015, 02:49 PM - **2 Likes**

It won't.
But will let me use my collection of FF lenses from 18-600mm in the way I bought them for.....

enoeske · 07-01-2015, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by slip

Will having a FF sensor improve your photography?
If so, why?
I can see having better autofocus or maybe more adjustable but am trying to understand why someone would pay thousands of dollars for the body and some decent glass to match. I can see maybe a wedding photographer needing high ISO performance.
So please convince me of your need for full frame where APS-C can't give as good results

Thanks

Randy

Why do you turn this into an either/or situation? Both formats have strengths and weaknesses in the plethora of different genres of photography.

slip · 07-01-2015, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by enoeske

Why do you turn this into an either/or situation? Both formats have strengths and weaknesses in the plethora of different genres of photography.

Just trying to understand that's all

Randy

**geomez** · 07-01-2015, 03:11 PM

It won't improve mine. But I still want it

officiousbystander · 07-01-2015, 03:19 PM - **3 Likes**

It won't improve your photography. But it might improve your photographs.

slip · 07-01-2015, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by officiousbystander

It won't improve your photography. But it might improve your photographs.

great answer

**skunktail** · 07-01-2015, 03:21 PM

I expect the sensor size itself will make very little or no difference to me.
It's the other features that come with it in a new camera that interest me.

What's the ISO noise like?
Any improvement on the sync speed?

these are what I'll be looking at when details are released.

**sholtzma** · 07-01-2015, 03:22 PM - **3 Likes**

I expect the larger sensor size to provide much more image data, much the way that medium format provides much more image data than full frame. That increased image data could translate into smoother color gradations, greater ability to crop deeply into a photo, larger printing sizes without degradation, just to mention a few possibilities. Also, I like the way full frame makes my wide angle lenses actually wide angle, whereas cropped sensors "crop" the angle of view, which bothers me more at wide angle than at telephoto.

**jatrax** · 07-01-2015, 03:24 PM

I'm not sure it will. But I'm keeping an open mind and saving money. I don't care about depth of focus or using lenses "as they were made to" or any of the other FF reasons. The only thing that matters to me is results. If the FF will produce better prints than I can get on APS-C I'll buy at any reasonable cost. If not then I'm staying with APS-C.

Unfortunately that means I need to see sample images before I buy.

**mattb123** · 07-01-2015, 04:00 PM

I'm hoping it will make my night sky shots less noisy and give me a relatively thinner DOF for portraiture. Well the first point isn't known yet but that is what I hope for.

MD Optofonik · 07-01-2015, 04:11 PM

Technically or aesthetically?

**sholtzma** · 07-01-2015, 04:33 PM

I'm assuming the OP meant "technically". Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed....

**Bruce Clark** · 07-01-2015, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by officiousbystander

It won't improve your photography. But it might improve your photographs.

My thoughts exactly.

VoiceOfReason · 07-01-2015, 05:04 PM

I'd like less noise and more dynamic range, and depending on the sensor it may give me that. Besides I have FF coverage from 12-500mm, and then you factor in my 1.4 and 1.7 adapters....

07-01-2015, 02:42 PM	#1
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,535	how will FF improve your photography? Will having a FF sensor improve your photography? If so, why? I can see having better autofocus or maybe more adjustable but am trying to understand why someone would pay thousands of dollars for the body and some decent glass to match. I can see maybe a wedding photographer needing high ISO performance. So please convince me of your need for full frame where APS-C can't give as good results Thanks Randy Last edited by slip; 07-01-2015 at 03:30 PM.

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07-01-2015, 02:49 PM - 2 Likes	#2
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	It won't. But will let me use my collection of FF lenses from 18-600mm in the way I bought them for.....

07-01-2015, 02:51 PM	#3
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	Originally posted by slip Will having a FF sensor improve your photography? If so, why? I can see having better autofocus or maybe more adjustable but am trying to understand why someone would pay thousands of dollars for the body and some decent glass to match. I can see maybe a wedding photographer needing high ISO performance. So please convince me of your need for full frame where APS-C can't give as good results Thanks Randy Why do you turn this into an either/or situation? Both formats have strengths and weaknesses in the plethora of different genres of photography.

07-01-2015, 03:06 PM	#4
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,535 Original Poster	Originally posted by enoeske Why do you turn this into an either/or situation? Both formats have strengths and weaknesses in the plethora of different genres of photography. Just trying to understand that's all Randy

07-01-2015, 03:11 PM	#5
geomez Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Roanoke, Virginia, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,760	It won't improve mine. But I still want it

07-01-2015, 03:19 PM - 3 Likes	#6
officiousbystander Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery Posts: 912	It won't improve your photography. But it might improve your photographs.

07-01-2015, 03:20 PM	#7
slip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 2 hours north of toronto ontario canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,535 Original Poster	Originally posted by officiousbystander It won't improve your photography. But it might improve your photographs. great answer

07-01-2015, 03:21 PM	#8
skunktail Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sydney, NSW Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 287	I expect the sensor size itself will make very little or no difference to me. It's the other features that come with it in a new camera that interest me. What's the ISO noise like? Any improvement on the sync speed? these are what I'll be looking at when details are released.

07-01-2015, 03:22 PM - 3 Likes	#9
sholtzma Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Salisbury, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,043	I expect the larger sensor size to provide much more image data, much the way that medium format provides much more image data than full frame. That increased image data could translate into smoother color gradations, greater ability to crop deeply into a photo, larger printing sizes without degradation, just to mention a few possibilities. Also, I like the way full frame makes my wide angle lenses actually wide angle, whereas cropped sensors "crop" the angle of view, which bothers me more at wide angle than at telephoto.

07-01-2015, 03:24 PM	#10
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	I'm not sure it will. But I'm keeping an open mind and saving money. I don't care about depth of focus or using lenses "as they were made to" or any of the other FF reasons. The only thing that matters to me is results. If the FF will produce better prints than I can get on APS-C I'll buy at any reasonable cost. If not then I'm staying with APS-C. Unfortunately that means I need to see sample images before I buy.

07-01-2015, 04:00 PM	#11
mattb123 Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado High Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,872	I'm hoping it will make my night sky shots less noisy and give me a relatively thinner DOF for portraiture. Well the first point isn't known yet but that is what I hope for.

07-01-2015, 04:11 PM	#12
MD Optofonik Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	Technically or aesthetically?

07-01-2015, 04:33 PM	#13
sholtzma Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Salisbury, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,043	I'm assuming the OP meant "technically". Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed....

07-01-2015, 04:55 PM	#14
Bruce Clark Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ocean Grove, Victoria Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,458	Originally posted by officiousbystander It won't improve your photography. But it might improve your photographs. My thoughts exactly.

07-01-2015, 05:04 PM	#15
VoiceOfReason Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mishawaka IN area Photos: Albums Posts: 6,124	I'd like less noise and more dynamic range, and depending on the sensor it may give me that. Besides I have FF coverage from 12-500mm, and then you factor in my 1.4 and 1.7 adapters....