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madbrain · 01-12-2009, 07:32 PM

Marc,

Originally Posted by Marc Sabatella

FWIW, if they did that, it had beeter be an option, because it would almost certainly slow the camera down.

It's an option on the Canon. But it doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference when saving the JPEG.

I haven't found the use of the orientation field to be an issue because of my workflow, and you might consider whether altering your workflow would similarly make the problem go away.

Well, my "workflow" pretty much consisted of emptying my SDHC card to the hard drive, then uploading everything to ovi. Then deleting the really bad pictures - and finding out that 1/3rd of the pictures had to be rotated.

For one thing, my original images (which are all RAW, although that's not actually relevant here) are *only* ever seen by one program (ACDSee Pro), which does understand the orientation field. I do whatever processing I want with those images then archive them away and seldom actually use them for anything. Instead, I generate medium resolution "proofs" (1200x1800 pixels, sufficient for web viewing and 4x6 prints) and use these for most purposes. Those are the ones I post to Flickr/Zenfolio/Facebook/etc, those are the ones I email to friends, etc. It's extremely rare that there is something I want to do with a picture that my proof isn't good enough for, and in those cases, I go back to my original and generate a full sized image (perhaps TIFF if I *really* care about IQ). And any file generated by ACDSee Pro - whether medium resolution proof or full size TIF - is automatically rotated "for real". So none of the images I ever share with anyone else depend on the orientation field. And it's also only these proofs or occasional full-size TIFF that ever get viewed by any application other than ACDSee.

So whether or not you went to that exact system or not, it seems you could benefit from giving some thought to what exactly you are trying accomplish when viewing images with programs that don't understand orientation, and if there is another way to accomplish that task.

I don't do any editing or processing. I just don't have the time right now. I know I could make the pictures a lot better. But photography is just one of (too many) things I am interested in. And I take way too many shots. Some day I need to actually put legends on them. But that takes time.

01-12-2009, 07:32 PM	#3
madbrain Senior Member Location: Santa Clara, CA Gallery Photos: 0 Posts: 268	Marc, Originally Posted by Marc Sabatella FWIW, if they did that, it had beeter be an option, because it would almost certainly slow the camera down. It's an option on the Canon. But it doesn't seem to make a noticeable difference when saving the JPEG. I haven't found the use of the orientation field to be an issue because of my workflow, and you might consider whether altering your workflow would similarly make the problem go away. Well, my "workflow" pretty much consisted of emptying my SDHC card to the hard drive, then uploading everything to ovi. Then deleting the really bad pictures - and finding out that 1/3rd of the pictures had to be rotated. For one thing, my original images (which are all RAW, although that's not actually relevant here) are only ever seen by one program (ACDSee Pro), which does understand the orientation field. I do whatever processing I want with those images then archive them away and seldom actually use them for anything. Instead, I generate medium resolution "proofs" (1200x1800 pixels, sufficient for web viewing and 4x6 prints) and use these for most purposes. Those are the ones I post to Flickr/Zenfolio/Facebook/etc, those are the ones I email to friends, etc. It's extremely rare that there is something I want to do with a picture that my proof isn't good enough for, and in those cases, I go back to my original and generate a full sized image (perhaps TIFF if I really care about IQ). And any file generated by ACDSee Pro - whether medium resolution proof or full size TIF - is automatically rotated "for real". So none of the images I ever share with anyone else depend on the orientation field. And it's also only these proofs or occasional full-size TIFF that ever get viewed by any application other than ACDSee. So whether or not you went to that exact system or not, it seems you could benefit from giving some thought to what exactly you are trying accomplish when viewing images with programs that don't understand orientation, and if there is another way to accomplish that task. I don't do any editing or processing. I just don't have the time right now. I know I could make the pictures a lot better. But photography is just one of (too many) things I am interested in. And I take way too many shots. Some day I need to actually put legends on them. But that takes time.