[shaolen]

Why has the photography world accepted this term? I've never heard this word before a couple years ago EVER. Even my computers spell check and my phones autocorrect don't recognize this term. Im pretty sure the correct term for what people have been calling videographers is cinematographers. Videographer sounds like a kid who didn't know the term cinematographer and tried to make something up. I know its not a big deal but it just annoys me

[Giklab]

It annoys me when people talk about "shutter speed". Doesn't mean I'm going to change the world, and for the sake of the dialog I use the term, even if I know it's wrong.
OTOH I'm not annoyed by 'videography' at all - 'cinematography' implies the end result is intended for a cinema or theatre, and there are a multitude of other media which can convey video.

[tuco]

I think it is better than saying, "filming" or "I shot a film" while holding your DSLR.

[JinDesu]

Eh, I would say that videographers refer to people shooting video for private use or something to that effect, while cinematographers are shooting for a movie or commercial or something. That distinction could be useful.

[shaolen]

Eh, I would say that videographers refer to people shooting video for private use or something to that effect, while cinematographers are shooting for a movie or commercial or something. That distinction could be useful.

interesting, however I hear the term videographer being used for people doing videos professionally (weddings and such) too

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I think it is better than saying, "filming" or "I shot a film" while holding your DSLR.

actually "filming" would definitely be much easier to say

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Why has the photography world accepted this term? I've never heard this word before a couple years ago EVER. Even my computers spell check and my phones autocorrect don't recognize this term. Im pretty sure the correct term for what people have been calling videographers is cinematographers. Videographer sounds like a kid who didn't know the term cinematographer and tried to make something up. I know its not a big deal but it just annoys me

I guess there's a fundamental difference between people using shutter speed and videographer. Shutter and speed are both still actual words where as videographer is not a real word

[JinDesu]

interesting, however I hear the term videographer being used for people doing videos professionally (weddings and such) too

Sure - those are private videos that will be given to the bride and groom, for the bride and groom to decide what they want to do with it. That would jive with how I see it, even if they are doing it professionally.

Now, if they were shooting a wedding to use commercially, then I would call them cinematographers. If they were lacking in equipment and doing a bad or amateur job of it, I would call them bad cinematographers

[shaolen]

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Sure - those are private videos that will be given to the bride and groom, for the bride and groom to decide what they want to do with it. That would jive with how I see it, even if they are doing it professionally.</p>
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<p>Now, if they were shooting a wedding to use commercially, then I would call them cinematographers. If they were lacking in equipment and doing a bad or amateur job of it, I would call them bad cinematographers <img src="https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/images/smilies/lol.png" border="0" alt="" title="Lol" smilieid="15" class="inlineimg" />

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<p>oh ok I see your point.</p>
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<p>film maker / film making I think works</p>
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<p>I guess to put it in perspective how would everyone feel if all of a sudden people started calling photographers &quot;picturographers&quot; or &quot;stillsographers&quot;?</p>

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[Tanzer]

I think it is a very accurate and suitable term.

I friend of mine who is a cinema enthusiast (as in old movies, not the current breed of DSLR video hipsters) once chided me 25 years ago, when I said I was going to use my Betacam to "film" something. Back then, you at least had an excuse for saying "film", because some people were still shooting Super 8 film on a regular basis.

And here is a quote from the English Wikipedia article on videography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videography):
"The word combines "video" from Latin, meaning "I see" or "I apprehend", with the Greek terminal ending "graphy", meaning "to write". Its contemporary sense is rooted in an article titled "Videography" What Does It All Mean? (American Cinematographer, October 1972)" So the term has been around since at least 1972.

Cinematographer isn't an accurate term. I understand that many enthusiasts want to shoot in 24p for a "filmic" look, but most do not have any interest in creating an actual film, nor the resources/patience/skill to do so.

[Imageman]

Such hyperbole in reaffirming the actuality of incredulous and somewhat incomprehensible non-de-plumes, ingratiates insufferably.


I prefer moving pictures

[Steve.Ledger]

The word is real and it exists.
Many new [in recent years] words were not real words until they were invented and then added to our dictionarys.
Language is an ever evolving thing, our digital and WWW age has spawned many new words which have been added to the lexicon..
The Oxford English Dictionary is updated four times a year - which shows how quickly English language is changing
And btw, filming would be wrong. 'Video' is correct when describing moving pictures recorded via electronic signals. 'Film' is chemical therefore using that word when describing footage shot using digital cameras is completely wrong.

Videography refers to the process of capturing moving images on electronic media (e.g., videotape, direct to disk recording, or solid state storage like a tapeless camcorder) even streaming media. The term includes methods of video production and post-production. It is the equivalent of cinematography, but with images recorded on electronic media instead of film stock.

[K(s)evin]

Videographers shoot video.

Cinematographers shoot film.

[Imageman]

Do Rabbitographers shoot Rabbits

[shaolen]

Videographers shoot video.

Cinematographers shoot film.

cinema = motion picture which is a video (though its commonly thought of a motion picture as a major movie but the basic definition of it applies to any video) and has no real phonetic connection or restriction to film

[TomGarn]

It annoys me when people talk about "shutter speed". Doesn't mean I'm going to change the world, and for the sake of the dialog I use the term, even if I know it's wrong. OTOH I'm not annoyed by 'videography' at all - 'cinematography' implies the end result is intended for a cinema or theatre, and there are a multitude of other media which can convey video.

Prosumers usually call that clear scan or variable shutter

[PiDicus Rex]

Locally, the term Videographer, was used to refer to people working commercially doing 'video' production, before the DV and Digital age, but not at the level of comercial TV.
It was used to make a distinction between the services offered by Photographers, TV Cameraman, Production Houses, and freelance camera Ops - the last being the Video Specialists, or Videographers.
A Videographer is more likely to be cross-discipline, where at higher levels you wil have seperate people for each part of the job - Camera, Colour Corrector, Editor, Cable Tech, etc etc, the professional Videographer could be expected to have skills in all those areas (much like the AV Tech - Last of the Polymaths,..) but would also know when specialist experts would be needed to finish the jobs - knowing when to hand over to a Grader or Sound Designer.

Now, it's mostly relegated to the Weddings/Corporate/Events video production arenas.

If your spell-checker doesn't have it, it's because the programmers never put it there, not that it doesn't exist.