Nikon D7200

Tesla · 03-02-2015, 12:41 AM

Here is Nikon's latest flagship DX DSLR, the Nikon D7200.
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/dslr-cameras/D7200.html
Nikon's latest lightweight DSLR is the D7200

**geomez** · 03-02-2015, 01:48 AM

I need a five character synonym for 'meh'

**NZ_Ross** · 03-02-2015, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by Tesla

Here is Nikon's latest flagship DX DSLR, the Nikon D7200.

Must be time for a K3 update then. Good. I am looking forward to seeing how Pentax progress the K3

semaca · 03-02-2015, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by geomez

I need a five character synonym for 'meh'

I was looking at this camera side by side with the 7100: new sensor, iso 25600, better video, 12 raw buffer, wifi, nfc, zebra stripes + "Just as in the earlier D7100, the dust-and-weather sealed body has magnesium-alloy panels top and rear"... I've seen a d600 that was splashed with some water and it stopped working.

Now I am only thinking about getting a K3...Am i wrong?

rawr · 03-02-2015, 03:41 AM

D7200 seems a very incremental revision to the D7100.

More of a K-3 catch-up - copying the K-3 buffer size and -3EV autofocus, but still unable to match the K-3's frame rate

One thing the arrival of the D7200 means is that any K-3 II will now (I bet) include WiFi and NFC, and a few other performance tune-ups to keep it a smidgen ahead of the D7200 in a few key areas.

**Rondec** · 03-02-2015, 03:49 AM

Fixes a couple of problem areas on the D7100, adds wi fi and is a little smaller.

This is why the camera market is drying up. Why would anyone who owns a D7100 be interested in this?

goubejp · 03-02-2015, 04:33 AM

By adopting more or less the same sensor as the K3 (Sony 24 Mpix), Nikon acknowledge that the K3 has a better sensor...
But I Wonder how they can claim a 2 stop gain in high iso performance.
I would like to see a K3 with a 24 Mpix backlit sensor that would boost iso performance

rawr · 03-02-2015, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by goubejp

I would like to see a K3 with a 24 Mpix backlit sensor that would boost iso performance

That would be nice. Some of the newer Sony 24MP sensor's (as used in the A6000, and the D3300/D5300) seem to offer a slight step ahead of the D7100 and K3 in high-ISO performance, judging by their DxOMark low-light scores. But it's only about a 10% improvement. Sony doesn't seem to be able to push 24MP APS-C sensor performance much further at the moment. Maybe Samsung will shake Sony up.

If Nikon are claiming a '2 stop' improvement in high-ISO performance, they are over-stating it. It seems all they are really saying is they have boosted the ISO range of the camera from max ISO 51,200 (with the D7100) to max IS0 102,400 (with the D7200) - with the catch being that ISO 102,000 is only available in black & white mode.

**Spodeworld** · 03-02-2015, 06:56 AM

It may be incremental, but the new sensor can be important. The one in the 7100 as well as the D5200 had a reputation for banding in the shadows when pushed hard in processing. The D7000 didn't suffer from that. Hopefully the new sensor has resolved that.

Originally posted by rawr

D7200 seems a very incremental revision to the D7100.

More of a K-3 catch-up - copying the K-3 buffer size and -3EV autofocus, but still unable to match the K-3's frame rate

One thing the arrival of the D7200 means is that any K-3 II will now (I bet) include WiFi and NFC, and a few other performance tune-ups to keep it a smidgen ahead of the D7200 in a few key areas.

**Rondec** · 03-02-2015, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by rawr

That would be nice. Some of the newer Sony 24MP sensor's (as used in the A6000, and the D3300/D5300) seem to offer a slight step ahead of the D7100 and K3 in high-ISO performance, judging by their DxOMark low-light scores. But it's only about a 10% improvement. Sony doesn't seem to be able to push 24MP APS-C sensor performance much further at the moment. Maybe Samsung will shake Sony up.

If Nikon are claiming a '2 stop' improvement in high-ISO performance, they are over-stating it. It seems all they are really saying is they have boosted the ISO range of the camera from max ISO 51,200 (with the D7100) to max IS0 102,400 (with the D7200) - with the catch being that ISO 102,000 is only available in black & white mode.

It is still an APS-C sensor and without some kind of weird magic, it will be within spitting distance of existant cameras. The K3 got a sports iso score of 1216 and the D7100 1256. There is no way you could actually tell the difference between those.

By adding iso 102,400, Nikon is just joining the idiot feature race, where you offer features that look fine on paper, but aren't even usable in real life. Max I normally use on APS-C would be 12,800 and even then, it doesn't look great.

jimr-pdx · 03-02-2015, 07:41 AM

Bythom or one of Thom's variant pages will have a time of it. He's devoted to Nikon but will shred them for wasting store shelves with minimally changed bodies.

Edit.. Man he's quick :-)
link

**Rondec** · 03-02-2015, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by jimr-pdx

Bythom or one of Thom's variant pages will have a time of it. He's devoted to Nikon but will shred them for wasting store shelves with minimally changed bodies.

Edit.. Man he's quick :-)
link

That does seem to be what Nikon does. The problem is that if there are a lot D7100 camera bodies still out there (that seems to be true), who is going to buy a new D7200 versus a discounted D7100, unless they happen to be the sort of person who always has to have the newest and the best (although my guess is that those folks would gravitate to the D810 or D4s).

**wtlwdwgn** · 03-02-2015, 08:03 AM

New Camera News: Nikon D7200.

dane.dawg · 03-02-2015, 06:00 PM

I am sure Nikon will release the D400 soon

Alizarine · 03-03-2015, 03:46 AM

The swiftness of model "upgrades" of cameras for Canikon is truly fascinating. They're gradually slowing down... Finally Pentax can catch up. In a world where "something new" makes headlines, Pentax should use it to their advantage- if the market sees there's more "new" things coming from someone else they might take interest. Sort of.

---------- Post added 03-03-15 at 06:48 PM ----------

also, what does engadget mean with the D7200 being "lightweight"?

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Tesla Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Washington State Posts: 589	Nikon D7200 Here is Nikon's latest flagship DX DSLR, the Nikon D7200. http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/dslr-cameras/D7200.html Nikon's latest lightweight DSLR is the D7200

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semaca Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: RO Posts: 143	Originally posted by geomez I need a five character synonym for 'meh' I was looking at this camera side by side with the 7100: new sensor, iso 25600, better video, 12 raw buffer, wifi, nfc, zebra stripes + "Just as in the earlier D7100, the dust-and-weather sealed body has magnesium-alloy panels top and rear"... I've seen a d600 that was splashed with some water and it stopped working. Now I am only thinking about getting a K3...Am i wrong?

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rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	D7200 seems a very incremental revision to the D7100. More of a K-3 catch-up - copying the K-3 buffer size and -3EV autofocus, but still unable to match the K-3's frame rate One thing the arrival of the D7200 means is that any K-3 II will now (I bet) include WiFi and NFC, and a few other performance tune-ups to keep it a smidgen ahead of the D7200 in a few key areas.

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Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Fixes a couple of problem areas on the D7100, adds wi fi and is a little smaller. This is why the camera market is drying up. Why would anyone who owns a D7100 be interested in this?

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goubejp Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: France Photos: Albums Posts: 804	By adopting more or less the same sensor as the K3 (Sony 24 Mpix), Nikon acknowledge that the K3 has a better sensor... But I Wonder how they can claim a 2 stop gain in high iso performance. I would like to see a K3 with a 24 Mpix backlit sensor that would boost iso performance

03-02-2015, 04:58 AM	#8
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by goubejp I would like to see a K3 with a 24 Mpix backlit sensor that would boost iso performance That would be nice. Some of the newer Sony 24MP sensor's (as used in the A6000, and the D3300/D5300) seem to offer a slight step ahead of the D7100 and K3 in high-ISO performance, judging by their DxOMark low-light scores. But it's only about a 10% improvement. Sony doesn't seem to be able to push 24MP APS-C sensor performance much further at the moment. Maybe Samsung will shake Sony up. If Nikon are claiming a '2 stop' improvement in high-ISO performance, they are over-stating it. It seems all they are really saying is they have boosted the ISO range of the camera from max ISO 51,200 (with the D7100) to max IS0 102,400 (with the D7200) - with the catch being that ISO 102,000 is only available in black & white mode.

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Spodeworld Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Joisey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,370	It may be incremental, but the new sensor can be important. The one in the 7100 as well as the D5200 had a reputation for banding in the shadows when pushed hard in processing. The D7000 didn't suffer from that. Hopefully the new sensor has resolved that. Originally posted by rawr D7200 seems a very incremental revision to the D7100. More of a K-3 catch-up - copying the K-3 buffer size and -3EV autofocus, but still unable to match the K-3's frame rate One thing the arrival of the D7200 means is that any K-3 II will now (I bet) include WiFi and NFC, and a few other performance tune-ups to keep it a smidgen ahead of the D7200 in a few key areas.

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Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Originally posted by rawr That would be nice. Some of the newer Sony 24MP sensor's (as used in the A6000, and the D3300/D5300) seem to offer a slight step ahead of the D7100 and K3 in high-ISO performance, judging by their DxOMark low-light scores. But it's only about a 10% improvement. Sony doesn't seem to be able to push 24MP APS-C sensor performance much further at the moment. Maybe Samsung will shake Sony up. If Nikon are claiming a '2 stop' improvement in high-ISO performance, they are over-stating it. It seems all they are really saying is they have boosted the ISO range of the camera from max ISO 51,200 (with the D7100) to max IS0 102,400 (with the D7200) - with the catch being that ISO 102,000 is only available in black & white mode. It is still an APS-C sensor and without some kind of weird magic, it will be within spitting distance of existant cameras. The K3 got a sports iso score of 1216 and the D7100 1256. There is no way you could actually tell the difference between those. By adding iso 102,400, Nikon is just joining the idiot feature race, where you offer features that look fine on paper, but aren't even usable in real life. Max I normally use on APS-C would be 12,800 and even then, it doesn't look great.

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Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Originally posted by jimr-pdx Bythom or one of Thom's variant pages will have a time of it. He's devoted to Nikon but will shred them for wasting store shelves with minimally changed bodies. Edit.. Man he's quick :-) link That does seem to be what Nikon does. The problem is that if there are a lot D7100 camera bodies still out there (that seems to be true), who is going to buy a new D7200 versus a discounted D7100, unless they happen to be the sort of person who always has to have the newest and the best (although my guess is that those folks would gravitate to the D810 or D4s).

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dane.dawg Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,436	I am sure Nikon will release the D400 soon

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Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	The swiftness of model "upgrades" of cameras for Canikon is truly fascinating. They're gradually slowing down... Finally Pentax can catch up. In a world where "something new" makes headlines, Pentax should use it to their advantage- if the market sees there's more "new" things coming from someone else they might take interest. Sort of. ---------- Post added 03-03-15 at 06:48 PM ---------- also, what does engadget mean with the D7200 being "lightweight"?