Originally posted by rparmar Duplo, you are correct. I initially wrote two comparisons, one converting focal lengths and the other not. Somehow I got a bit mixed up editing the post down to something more reasonable in length. At least in this comparison there are fast Nikon lenses to match the Limiteds, otherwise Nikon fares even poorer I think. And these changes do not significantly affect the prices or the overall conclusion.
Yes but it all depends on how you do the comparison. If you talk equivalent FOV and equivalent DOF, the comparision should with a 1 stop difference between them, as i.e. a 50/2 on aps-C is roughly equivalent to a 75/2.8 on 35mm digital.
That was my point the 43 is roughly comparable to a 60/2.8 in terms of FOV and DOF.
That said and as written above, the FA43, is one of the lenses i have not found an equal to in the Nikkor camp.
Originally posted by rparmar Well, there are no really comparable lenses. Though the DA16-45 is bottom of the totem pole in terms of its class, it is top of the pile in terms of quality. I disagree that it is "an ordinary standard zoom" even if it is marketed and positioned that way. It is fully professional in terms of IQ. In order to get anything similar from Nikon does cost an awful lot more, especially when SR is factored in.
Basically, that's the point.
And I say your comparison is still flawed, the Da16-45 is a fine lens yes, but none the less a consumer lens, you pay a lot to get a constant f2.8 design that is fully weathersealed. something the DA16-45 is not. Optically as good as the DA16-45 may be, I sincerely doubt it is a match to the 24-70. the DA*16-50 is an APS equivalent, just as the Nikkor 17-55/2.8 is.
Originally posted by rparmar Thanks for the responses. I hope people realise I am not slagging Nikon, since I have a great deal of respect or them. (Canon may be another matter!) And, from what I've seen, I do like their new camera. Heck, it even stole something from Pentax... the RAW button.
I did not see it like that, I just pointed out some things in your comparison that does not make sense.
The Raw Button? you got me confused there? as I shoot RAW only I have never seen the point of it, Guess it is roughly the same as the quality button on my D3, which I have never used either btw
Originally posted by rparmar But even if I had all the money in the world I would feel like I'd miss something moving from Pentax. I am sure that others with different needs would not feel the same, and that the D700 will grab people from our camp.
I look forward to the next move from Pentax.
I am a dual system shoot, shooting a full D3 setup alongside Pentax, so I have a fairly good idea of the two systems compared.
The D700 is basically a D3 sensor in a slightly grown D300 body and a fine FF camera, but personally I prefer the D3 of the 3.
As you I am looking forward to the next steps from Pentax, particularly in the medium format arena.