What's the big deal with full frame?

[raymeedc]

Originally Posted by Mike Cash

To borrow from that great shower curtain ring salesman, Del Griffith....we'd have better luck playing Pick-Up-Sticks with our butt cheeks.

I wasn't quite sure I knew what you were driving at, Mike, so I dug out my pick-up-sticks & pulled down my pants..... I see what you mean. I guess I won't be sending out any suggestions to Pentax.

[pingflood]

Originally Posted by raymeedc

Who do they think buys all those old Takumars on Ebay?

Believe it or not, lots of Canon users. I stumbled into an "alternative lens" forum and lots of Super Taks on EOS bodies in there.

[raymeedc]

Originally Posted by pingflood

Believe it or not, lots of Canon users. I stumbled into an "alternative lens" forum and lots of Super Taks on EOS bodies in there.

Just one more reason for Pentax to comply with our wishes..... I'm sure many of these Canon Takumar users would buy a Pentax body if their lenses could be used as initially intended..... I know I would buy a Canon body if they offered such a model.

[Ratmagiclady]

Originally Posted by raymeedc

Just one more reason for Pentax to comply with our wishes..... I'm sure many of these Canon Takumar users would buy a Pentax body if their lenses could be used as initially intended..... I know I would buy a Canon body if they offered such a model.

Oh, yeah, if they'd just come out with an FD mount digital, I could really just get back to business, in a lot of ways.

I wonder if my 35/2 being slightly radioactive would hurt anything, though.

[raymeedc]

Originally Posted by Ratmagiclady

Oh, yeah, if they'd just come out with an FD mount digital

I guess I wasn't clear enough.... what I meant was I would buy a Canon body if they came out with a non-crippled M42 mount.

[Ratmagiclady]

Originally Posted by raymeedc

I guess I wasn't clear enough.... what I meant was I would buy a Canon body if they came out with a non-crippled M42 mount.

Ah, I was thinking more, "FD mount and "P" adapter. "

Somehow I don't think Canon's going to admit people'll be wanting to use old Pentax lenses, even if the full aperture standard is open.

[raymeedc]

Originally Posted by Ratmagiclady

Ah, I was thinking more, "FD mount and "P" adapter. "

Somehow I don't think Canon's going to admit people'll be wanting to use old Pentax lenses, even if the full aperture standard is open.

That's OK, It would be kind of upsetting & a little strange to be using a Canon body with my Takumar lenses, although I would make the sacrifice if that was the only option. But you've given me an idea..... maybe I could write to Pentax, pretending to be the CEO of Canon, inquiring about the feasability of Canon coming out with a fully functioning M42 mount on their FullFrame models. Perhaps that would scare Pentax into beating them to the punch..... I know, back to the pick-up-sticks.

[pingflood]

Originally Posted by Ratmagiclady

Ah, I was thinking more, "FD mount and "P" adapter. "

Somehow I don't think Canon's going to admit people'll be wanting to use old Pentax lenses, even if the full aperture standard is open.

I really doubt Pentax truly want people to use old lenses either; they make money off people buying new glass. Sure, it's nice to give lip service to the old stuff, but if they REALLY wanted people to use the Pentax bodies for that, why not give them a fully functional K mount?

[Mike Cash]

Originally Posted by pingflood

I really doubt Pentax truly want people to use old lenses either; they make money off people buying new glass. Sure, it's nice to give lip service to the old stuff, but if they REALLY wanted people to use the Pentax bodies for that, why not give them a fully functional K mount?

Having just re-watched Rain Man a couple of days ago, I couldn't help but think..."Tell him, Ray." "K-mount sucks".

[séamuis]

Originally Posted by pingflood

I really doubt Pentax truly want people to use old lenses either; they make money off people buying new glass. Sure, it's nice to give lip service to the old stuff, but if they REALLY wanted people to use the Pentax bodies for that, why not give them a fully functional K mount?

this is why I suggested that they put out such a body as an alternative niche style camera... something to compete with the G1 and the upcoming new 'PEN' people are buying these for the retro look, feel and general use. not to mention the ability to use manual lenses (dont know about the PEN). I never gave a thought about Pentax converting from K mount to a modern M42 across their entire range.

I truly believe that a smaller, 'retro' styled digital SLR body with a fully functional FF m42 mount would cause a shitstorm among consumers. you would have pentax, canon, nikon, olympus, etc fans all clambering for such a body to use the plethora of m42 lenses available. like it or not, old ideas on body and lens design are coming back into fashion and pentax would be smart to cash in on a segment that they could easily dominate, while still retaining the K mount. we know they can, at least style wise do it, (the AP 50th Anniversary Edition) they already have the engineering aspect down for the m42, and its clear (has been for a long time) that pentax has the ability to make a smaller lighter weight camera than the competition. they could do it, easily....

of course Takumar prices would go through the roof....

[stevebrot]

Originally Posted by séamuis

...of course Takumar prices would go through the roof....

Best to stock up now...

Steve

[séamuis]

Originally Posted by stevebrot

Best to stock up now...

Steve

*points to signature*

im tryin', but they are expensive enough now, as it is.

[raymeedc]

Originally Posted by séamuis

this is why I suggested that they put out such a body as an alternative niche style camera... something to compete with the G1 and the upcoming new 'PEN' people are buying these for the retro look, feel and general use. not to mention the ability to use manual lenses (dont know about the PEN). I never gave a thought about Pentax converting from K mount to a modern M42 across their entire range.

I truly believe that a smaller, 'retro' styled digital SLR body with a fully functional FF m42 mount would cause a shitstorm among consumers. you would have pentax, canon, nikon, olympus, etc fans all clambering for such a body to use the plethora of m42 lenses available. like it or not, old ideas on body and lens design are coming back into fashion and pentax would be smart to cash in on a segment that they could easily dominate, while still retaining the K mount. we know they can, at least style wise do it, (the AP 50th Anniversary Edition) they already have the engineering aspect down for the m42, and its clear (has been for a long time) that pentax has the ability to make a smaller lighter weight camera than the competition. they could do it, easily....

I don't know how you presently occupy your time, but it would benefit us all greatly if you would do us the favor of applying for, and acquiring, the CEO position at Pentax. You could certainly count on me (and a great many others at this site, I'm sure) for a glowing recommendation.

[séamuis]

Originally Posted by raymeedc

I don't know how you presently occupy your time, but it would benefit us all greatly if you would do us the favor of applying for, and acquiring, the CEO position at Pentax. You could certainly count on me (and a great many others at this site, I'm sure) for a glowing recommendation.

I occupy my time by running film through my cameras, spinning vinyl, and singing along (very poorly) to CSN(&Y). oh, and working of course.

thanks for the confidence and recommendation! though somehow I don't think I would 'fit in' ya know?. I think Mike Cash would be a better choice to send in. he is older, wiser, much more witty and lives in Japan. and he most certainly thinks like we do.

[Mike Cash]

I don't think I could tolerate the loss of picture taking opportunities that holding down a real job would entail.