Treat your DSLR as a SLR... for a gig - Page 2

*séamuis* · 11-21-2008, 10:59 AM

I already do that. the review is turned off, I only use M, manual lenses, and I only use the old standard of shutter speeds. 1000, 500, 250, 125, 60, 30, 15, 8 4, 2, 1, B. I treat my K110D just like my MX, in fact I use them side-by-side in this fashion. some might think that's odd but for me this is how I like to shoot and I get very similar results from the two cameras. I use film mostly so for me its important that when using my digital it is as close to using my film SLR as possible. im just quarky I guess.

Gooshin · 11-21-2008, 11:57 AM

quarky or not, you have been blessed with an on the go histogram

i'm sorry but you may get good results because you are good at photography, but our cameras cannot be trusted 100%, nor our eyes, a histogram on the other hand never lies. (esp if you know how the jpeg clipping correlates with the RAW headroom)

perhaps a better excercise would be to simply snap less think more rather than avoiding the LCD screen and 100% zooming

chimping is a free and instant teacher of photography (should one fully understand how to utilize it), its a shame some of your are seriously not taking advantage of it.

*séamuis* · 11-21-2008, 12:04 PM

Im not too concerned with 'perfect exposure' anyway. look at the few digital photos in my redbubble gallery (see sig) in fact slight underexposure is something I play up in my street photography. I don't see the need to 'have' to take advantage of the technology just because its built into my camera. I prefer a certain look and its very easy to achieve with film so I try and emulate that with my digital. all that extra stuff is just useless to me. that's a big part of the reason im still using a K110D and have been considering putting that aside for a K2000.

Eigengrau · 11-30-2008, 02:05 PM

I think anything that streches us creatively is a worthwhile endeavor. I turned off auto-preview and have been shooting a lot more in full manual, and I find that it keeps me more focused and in tune with the camera. It is less like the camera is taking the pictures and I'm checking on it, and more like the camera is an extension of me.

Anyways, while the ability to preview on-the-fly is certainly a nice one, I think things that are too easy cripple our creative process sometimes, so making it harder can make us branch out a bit, and at the very least have a different perspective and value on the way the camera automates things.

*er1kksen* · 11-30-2008, 06:08 PM

Wow people, there are some pretty strong opinions going here. It's important to remember that anyone has a right to use their chosen tools exactly as they want to, and it's no skin off of anyone else's nose. Personally, I have a tendency to chimp a lot, depending on what I'm shooting. But I started out on film SLRs, and if digital exposure was as forgiving as negative film, I would probably chimp a lot less. That said, I feel that if money's not on the line, changing things up to provide a challenge or get the creative juices flowing a bit stronger is certainly a good thing. I don't know what bearing any of this has on my dignity.

IsaacEastgate · 12-01-2008, 11:50 AM

Ok, i tried this at a small gig last night. Unfortunately there was little to no lighting whatsoever so i was messing around with shutter-speed vs. pop-up flash compensation the whole night, i ended up pressing the playback button after around half of my shots...
Its a good idea though, definitely better than instant review.

Its really horrible to see prejudice against digital photographers anywhere, especially on this forum, perhaps the person in question is looking to be deleted...

Sanglant · 12-01-2008, 10:36 PM

i keep the instant review off on my k10d because i got tired of the screen coming on right next to my eye

.One more thing you can do to save your batteries is disable the guide(thing that pops up when you change the exposure mode) in the Setup menu

gophers · 12-01-2008, 11:00 PM

Always use review on the camera and other digital facilities, I just carry a spare set of batteries with me

IsaacEastgate · 12-02-2008, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by gophers

Always use review on the camera and other digital facilities, I just carry a spare set of batteries with me

i think that its less about battery power and more about distractions...

intereetsingly sunday night at this gig i was at a guy was behind me using a nikon f65 (a multi-program starter slr), with a 28-80mm f3.5 lens with no flash. I was quite intrigued, but i doubt he got any real photos...
Also another guy had a canon dslr with an antique flash (which wasnt doing much for him...), but he also had a holga round his neck, the version with the f8 lens, i dont know what he expected to do with that unless he was hoping to catch someone else's flashes

*séamuis* · 12-02-2008, 12:36 PM

but he also had a holga round his neck, the version with the f8 lens, i dont know what he expected to do with that unless he was hoping to catch someone else's flashes

he was hoping to get some holgarific photos of the gig for his blog, what else? hell be disappointed.

*er1kksen* · 12-02-2008, 03:28 PM

You can do some interesting things with a holga, consider the possibilities of multiple exposures, bulb, and pushing the film a bit. Clear, detailed, technically excellent photos? Almost certainly not. But fun? I'd give it a pretty high likelihood.

*séamuis* · 12-03-2008, 07:03 AM

not with an f8 lens in a very dimly lit room he wont.

IsaacEastgate · 12-03-2008, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by er1kksen

You can do some interesting things with a holga, consider the possibilities of multiple exposures, bulb, and pushing the film a bit. Clear, detailed, technically excellent photos? Almost certainly not. But fun? I'd give it a pretty high likelihood.

I can multiple expose with my k20d, i can bulb expose with my k20d, i can push my images a little bit. And i did. the one thing i love the most about my k20d is that it doesn't feel like playing with a computer.

i'm adding shots to my flickr if anyone is interested (link in my sig)

btw i'm not some mad camera spotter, looking back through my shots i can read all the text on everyones wristwatches etc.
Moving up from a 6 meg compact a few months ago this is still a huge buzz for me

alohadave · 12-04-2008, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Sanglant

i keep the instant review off on my k10d because i got tired of the screen coming on right next to my eye .One more thing you can do to save your batteries is disable the guide(thing that pops up when you change the exposure mode) in the Setup menu

If you half press the shutter button, the instant review won't come on.

IsaacEastgate · 12-04-2008, 02:47 PM

but when you let go it will...
on k20d at least