ebay nightmare - what to do - Page 2

*Igilligan* · 10-19-2009, 01:48 PM

What a crock or what a crook... either way I am sorry you are dealing with this.

None of my business but why did you not offer it on this forum? I could have posted some beautiful shots from mine and we could have had it sold in a few hours.

*Ash* · 10-19-2009, 02:09 PM

Very funny Gus.

In all honesty, I too am of the opinion that you sold the lens in good faith - it was in good working order - it arrived in good condition - therefore you've done your part quite adequately.

Not being a multinational store with an unconditional guarantee or warranty on your sold goods, it sounds a little unrealistic for this fellow to ask you to fund his shipment of the 'faulty' lens back as well as pay for his own dodgy adapter.

Be cordial in your responses through the dispute system to explain the extent you've gone to to send an item in good working order, and the possibility of his own equipment failing him to see hs response in the matter.

Hope it works out for you.

*smc* · 10-19-2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Igilligan

What a crock or what a crook... either way I am sorry you are dealing with this.

None of my business but why did you not offer it on this forum? I could have posted some beautiful shots from mine and we could have had it sold in a few hours.

Thanks Gus....I had thrown it on ebay when really I should have posted it here first.... I was going to let it "run out" then repost here....

Originally Posted by Ash

Very funny Gus.

In all honesty, I too am of the opinion that you sold the lens in good faith - it was in good working order - it arrived in good condition - therefore you've done your part quite adequately.

Not being a multinational store with an unconditional guarantee or warranty on your sold goods, it sounds a little unrealistic for this fellow to ask you to fund his shipment of the 'faulty' lens back as well as pay for his own dodgy adapter.

Be cordial in your responses through the dispute system to explain the extent you've gone to to send an item in good working order, and the possibility of his own equipment failing him to see hs response in the matter.

Hope it works out for you.

Thanks Ash. He states he has a Pentax adapter. All it takes with any M42 lens is to crank on it once when it isn't threaded properly to mess up the threads..... It's worrying that the adapter is fully on and it is apparently "stuck"....

We'll see what happens...

*wildlifephotog* · 10-19-2009, 03:29 PM

If he got the adapter all the way on, and cross threaded. What did he use a pipe wrench?
Either that or he has gorilla arms and intellect.

Gooshin · 10-19-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by smc

Thanks Gus....I had thrown it on ebay when really I should have posted it here first.... I was going to let it "run out" then repost here....

Thanks Ash. He states he has a Pentax adapter. All it takes with any M42 lens is to crank on it once when it isn't threaded properly to mess up the threads..... It's worrying that the adapter is fully on and it is apparently "stuck".... We'll see what happens...

this is what i dont buy,

i had, with the help of my 220lb father and a 5 foot extention tube, take off a 9 year old rusted nut off a stud after some efforts, the threads and the nut survived the ordeal

how he got his adapter "stuck" it beyond me, tell him to use some muscle.

*Tom S.* · 10-19-2009, 04:01 PM

Tell him you can't be held liable for 'user error'.

*raz-0* · 10-19-2009, 04:11 PM

Screw user error.

Did he mount it on a m42 screw mount body? No.
He modified the lens. His modification, his problem.

At this point though, I wouldn't bother selling anything on ebay unless you are using them as a virtual storefront and operate with margins enough to tolerate the grinders. They have pretty much hamstrung the sellers beyond belief. Can you even post your side of the story anymore?

*smc* · 10-19-2009, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by raz-0

Screw user error.

Did he mount it on a m42 screw mount body? No.
He modified the lens. His modification, his problem.

At this point though, I wouldn't bother selling anything on ebay unless you are using them as a virtual storefront and operate with margins enough to tolerate the grinders. They have pretty much hamstrung the sellers beyond belief. Can you even post your side of the story anymore?

If he mounted it on a Pentax M42 to K adapter it should be fine....no modification needed...

eBay has gotten worse ...at least in Canada. They have just decided you have to accept responsibility for shipping regardless if the person wants insurance or not. The problem is Canada Post...for some countries the charge for a signature will add $40 or $80 (or more) as it's only offered for more expensive shipping options....or they don't offer it at all. Someone can get the item, then say they never got it, and there is nothing you can do about it.....

*Ash* · 10-19-2009, 05:56 PM

A lot of trust is involved in sending things away by post.
Keep at it with PayPal. This is not a case of the buyer not receiving the item in good condition, so I believe you still have a case.

*res3567* · 10-19-2009, 08:13 PM

Check it!

You sold him a lens NOT the ADAPTER so he can't blame you because he put the lens on the adapter wrong.

Tell him to go jump into Lake Dookey Squat!!!!

seacapt · 10-19-2009, 08:34 PM

Dude , you are getting boned!!! The buyer is not sincere. Contact Ebay and paypal to cover your self then tell him ( in Chinese if possible) that he can embed the lens in his anus for all you care!
What is this gizmos Ebay ID?
I'll bet he is a buyer only and has 100% feed back cause sellers can't leave negatives any more no matter how bad they get reemed!
Read his Positive feedback and see if any other sellers slipped in a warning under the + post.
After getting ripped off several times by buyers from China , I stopped selling overseas.
If it looks like BS and smells like BS its probably BS so don't eat it!
After it's all done mail him abox of live hornets as a thank you!

little laker · 10-20-2009, 12:34 AM

I just tried the unthinkable, and actually tried cross threading my 35mm f2.0 onto one of my screwmount adapters, and guess what.
I couldn't possibly do it.
I admit that I didn't try forcing it on, however the threads never even tried to grab.
And that's with the adapter on my camera (what can I say, I never take it off my film camera)

I just can't picture anyone getting a true M42 lens like that stuck on a genuine Pentax adapter.

My guess is, like someone else mentioned he forced it on a Made For Pentax T-Mount adapter, thinking they're the same thing

Lots of luck with it.

*smc* · 10-20-2009, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by little laker

I just tried the unthinkable, and actually tried cross threading my 35mm f2.0 onto one of my screwmount adapters, and guess what.
I couldn't possibly do it.
I admit that I didn't try forcing it on, however the threads never even tried to grab.
And that's with the adapter on my camera (what can I say, I never take it off my film camera)

I just can't picture anyone getting a true M42 lens like that stuck on a genuine Pentax adapter.

My guess is, like someone else mentioned he forced it on a Made For Pentax T-Mount adapter, thinking they're the same thing

Lots of luck with it.

Thanks LL....Hopefully it'll work out.....I'm feeling a little bummed...it lasted 50 years as new to have this happen...

little laker · 10-20-2009, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by smc

it lasted 50 years as new to have this happen...

I wish that I could have afforded it, it looks like a beautiful lens.
It would have gotten plenty of use with me, and never would have gotten stuck

*séamuis* · 10-20-2009, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by smc

Thanks LL....Hopefully it'll work out.....I'm feeling a little bummed...it lasted 50 years as new to have this happen...

the thing to be careful with these auto-takumars is that the mount and other parts are made out of some sort of soft alloy. ths means that the threads can easily be cross-threaded and damaged. even on a genuine adapter if one is not careful.

it really is a shame... I have this lens as well and its a true gem. I couldnt imagine something like that happening to my lens.