The American Dream... 09' - Page 3

*deadwolfbones* · 10-28-2009, 07:44 PM

Yeah, let's make our cities more like Baghdad!

*Blue* · 10-28-2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Gooshin

last i checked it was the russians had their flag up in berlin...

you guys jumped in at like the last year, i mean, thanks for the supplies and all but we put way more people on the line than you did.

Only in part of it. The latter bespeaks of the Soviet inefficiency problems. We operated on the philosophy that it was better to make the other poor damn bastard die for his flag.

Gooshin · 10-28-2009, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

Only in part of it. The latter bespeaks of the Soviet inefficiency problems. We operated on the philosophy that it was better to make the other poor damn bastard die for his flag.

you forget that at the time russia was still going through its "revolution" while you guys were climbing for the stars.

all things considered i think we did pretty damn well.

little laker · 10-28-2009, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by flyer

Or disarm everybody (except law enforcement officer).

When the criminals all put their weapons down this may just work

In my personal opinion the only thing disarming the average working man would do is make it a little harder for criminals to steal weapons from them.
Considering how few murders here in Canada are done with weapons actually stolen in Canada I don't know if it's worth the effort.
Most of the guns I've seen found in raids were automatic weapons, smuggled in from other places.

*Wheatfield* · 10-28-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by deadwolfbones

Yeah, let's make our cities more like Baghdad!

Hey, a few B-52s and there you go.

*Wheatfield* · 10-28-2009, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by little laker

When the criminals all put their weapons down this may just work

In my personal opinion the only thing disarming the average working man would do is make it a little harder for criminals to steal weapons from them.
Considering how few murders here in Canada are done with weapons actually stolen in Canada I don't know if it's worth the effort.
Most of the guns I've seen found in raids were automatic weapons, smuggled in from other places.

It's not the weapons that are the problem, it's the socio-economic disparities.

*graphicgr8s* · 10-28-2009, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Gooshin

last i checked it was the russians had their flag up in berlin...

you guys jumped in at like the last year, i mean, thanks for the supplies and all but we put way more people on the line than you did.

Didn't have a choice. You guys couldn't get the job done so we did it for you. Shoot. I am half Russian. Grandma and Grandpa was born there. Oh well.

*Blue* · 10-28-2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Gooshin

you forget that at the time russia was still going through its "revolution" while you guys were climbing for the stars.

all things considered i think we did pretty damn well.

Is that what Uncle Joe called it.

*graphicgr8s* · 10-28-2009, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Wheatfield

It's not the weapons that are the problem, it's the socio-economic disparities.

Has nothing to do with anything else? Like being crazy? Like David Berkowitz? Or Manson? Or Bundy?

*Blue* · 10-28-2009, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Wheatfield

It's not the weapons that are the problem, it's the socio-economic disparities.

Are you serious? At the end of the day, that is a cop-out.

*Ratmagiclady* · 10-28-2009, 09:51 PM

Just makes you wanna sock-hop to the oldies, doesn't it, though? I'm thinking of the Dead Kennedys' 'Holiday in Cambodia.'

*Wheatfield* · 10-28-2009, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

Are you serious? At the end of the day, that is a cop-out.

At the end of the day that is the reality behind a hell of a lot of crime.

*Wheatfield* · 10-28-2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by graphicgr8s

Didn't have a choice. You guys couldn't get the job done so we did it for you. Shoot. I am half Russian. Grandma and Grandpa was born there. Oh well.

Something about the Japanese (Allies of Germany) bombing your military holdings in Hawaii had absolutely nothing to do with it?

flyer · 10-29-2009, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by little laker

smuggled in from other places.

Mainly from the States, at least here in Québec and Ontario, going through the border at Indian reserve.

lithos · 10-29-2009, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Blue

Only in part of it. The latter bespeaks of the Soviet inefficiency problems. We operated on the philosophy that it was better to make the other poor damn bastard die for his flag.

That's why we won't be taking over command if the Dutch leave Oruzgan. And why we pulled out of Iraq. And Vietnam. War these days is like rooting without a franger. You've got to know when to pull out.

Originally Posted by Blue

Is that what Uncle Joe called it.

Funny story: in the newsreels they showed down here to the Diggers in WWII, they open with some sort of nice little piece on how the glorious Allied leaders - namely, Churchill and Roosevelt (Curtin being regarded as something of a loose cannon) - were leading the fight against the Axis, how they'd lead us to victory, &c, &c.

The Diggers'd chant in unison at the end of the spiel, "What about Joe?" Not for any affinity with Stalin, maybe a bit with socialism (a lot of the Diggers being ardent unionists,) but mostly to take the piss.

Later warnings were posted saying that if that phrase was asked at all, by anyone, newsreels would be canceled.

Of course, the standard response to the US doing so well in WWII is because they arrived about five years late.