Keeping up with the Clintons - Page 5

*Wheatfield* · 11-04-2009, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by seacapt

Well in those years the draft was a life sentence for some. My point was that he got a referral /recomendation to join the ROTC program enabling him to stay in college and change his draft elligibillity status. problem is after his status change he never joined the ROTC program.

So throw him in jail.
Unless what he did wasn't actually against the law.

*Blue* · 11-04-2009, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Wheatfield

So throw him in jail.
Unless what he did wasn't actually against the law.

When I get the time machine repaired, I'll get right on that.

seacapt · 11-04-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Gooshin

The man didnt want to lose his position just because he decided to get his rocks off.

Its like getting the death penalty for sneezing in public.

The impeachment wasn't about his extra marital affairs. It was about his lies and abuse of power.
You do realize that your comment illustrates my point that Willy's example told a whole generation that that being a liar and a cheat is OK don't you?

Gooshin · 11-04-2009, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by seacapt

The impeachment wasn't about his extra marital affairs. It was about his lies and abuse of power.
You do realize that your comment illustrates my point that Willy's example told a whole generation that that being a liar and a cheat is OK don't you?

give me an honest politician then..

flippedgazelle · 11-04-2009, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by seacapt

The impeachment wasn't about his extra marital affairs. It was about his lies and abuse of power.
You do realize that your comment illustrates my point that Willy's example told a whole generation that that being a liar and a cheat is OK don't you?

You mean we didn't learn from Andrew Jackson?

flippedgazelle · 11-04-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Gooshin

give me an honest politician then..

Expect to be empty-handed.

*Wheatfield* · 11-04-2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by seacapt

The impeachment wasn't about his extra marital affairs. It was about his lies and abuse of power.
You do realize that your comment illustrates my point that Willy's example told a whole generation that that being a liar and a cheat is OK don't you?

And then GWB carried on this fine tradition.

seacapt · 11-04-2009, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Gooshin

give me an honest politician then..

I'm not so sure that exists but Clinton was blatantly disgraceful. Resigning quietly would have been the right thing to do , but the low life chose to make a mockery of the law , show complete disrespect for the duty of his office , waste tax dollars on impeachment proceedings and degrade the moral fiber of a nation.
And oh yeah I really believe he didn't inhale !

Gooshin · 11-04-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by seacapt

I'm not so sure that exists but Clinton was blatantly disgraceful. Resigning quietly would have been the right thing to do , but the low life chose to make a mockery of the law , show complete disrespect for the duty of his office , waste tax dollars on impeachment proceedings and degrade the moral fiber of a nation.
And oh yeah I really believe he didn't inhale !

and i will ask you again, show me someone that would create a bench mark, so that your statements would become meaningful.

the way i see it, Clinton is no better or worse than anyone else in the grand scheme of things. He did some good things, he did some bad things, just like every other president in every other country...

flippedgazelle · 11-04-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by seacapt

I'm not so sure that exists but Clinton was blatantly disgraceful. Resigning quietly would have been the right thing to do , but the low life chose to make a mockery of the law , show complete disrespect for the duty of his office...

The problem is that Willie would have been breaking precedent. Ronnie, Tricky Dick, LBJ, JFK, FDR, etc have all been accused of these things. If they had all "resigned quietly" we would have been led by a series of VP's.

*Ash* · 11-04-2009, 05:40 PM

Goosh's point has been left unanswered - I wonder why?
As long as human beings are leaders of anything, there will be mistakes, big and small.
Only being a president means everything you do, have done, and will ever do will be heavily scrutinised.

flippedgazelle · 11-04-2009, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ash

Goosh's point has been left unanswered - I wonder why?
As long as human beings are leaders of anything, there will be mistakes, big and small.
Only being a president means everything you do, have done, and will ever do will be heavily scrutinised.

I guarantee that if I had been in Clinton's shoes, I would not have stuck a cigar in any fat interns.

However, I would have acted to prevent the genocide of ethnic Albanians.

*Ash* · 11-04-2009, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by flippedgazelle

I guarantee that if I had been in Clinton's shoes, I would not have stuck a cigar in any fat interns.

However, I would have acted to prevent the genocide of ethnic Albanians.

perhaps not, but any other vice you may have would certainly not be left alone either...

Jodokast96 · 11-04-2009, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by flippedgazelle

The problem is that Willie would have been breaking precedent. Ronnie, Tricky Dick, LBJ, JFK, FDR, etc have all been accused of these things. If they had all "resigned quietly" we would have been led by a series of VP's.

Not quite. Which of them lied under oath?

flippedgazelle · 11-04-2009, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Jodokast96

Not quite. Which of them lied under oath?

They've all been accused of lying under oath, or in situations where veracity is legally implied. Whether or not the above-referenced presidents actually did lie, I'll leave up to others' interpretations.