Verbatim and Transcend class 6 sdhc cards not fast enough for K-7 video

pasipasi · 08-04-2009, 07:41 AM

Hi

In the past I've always gone for cheaper class 6 cards and have had no issues with them. With the K-7 I of course shot some test video right away, but noticed I could only get about 1 minute of video before the buffer was full and recording stopped. Then a friend pointed out that Sandisk Ultra cards are faster than some class 6 cards, even though they're class 4 cards. I found an old 1gb Sandisk Ultra card that I used with the K100ds and it turns out I can record until the card is full. Off to buy 8gb Ultra or Extreme card I guess

eva2000 · 08-04-2009, 08:15 AM

probably comes down to write speed not read speed ?

pasipasi · 08-04-2009, 08:30 AM

Yes that's true

pixel r0n1n · 08-04-2009, 09:39 AM

then the advertized read/write specs at class 6 doesn't hold weight when you consider the manufacturer?
i have a class 6 8GB from Kingston, and running into same issues for video.
it stops just over a minute or recording time.
could it be a heating issue of the sensor as well?
manual does state that video recording would stop should the sensor overheat, but with no direct access to temperature info, it's hard to tell.

what experiences do others have with video recording and their SD card and of what class and make?

pasipasi · 08-04-2009, 09:46 AM

Same temperature with Sandisk Ultra card and only the card size was limiting the video lenght.

flyer · 08-04-2009, 10:07 AM

I have problems using an "Adata C6 16gb", but no problems with my Sandisk. My "Panasonic C6 4gb." gives me about 5 min. before it quits.

netuser · 08-04-2009, 10:13 AM

Nice I only buy scandisk cards to my k20d in case I upgrade soon ...

(getting sooner then later

by the minute lol)

pasipasi · 08-04-2009, 10:58 AM

Class 6 cards only write a minimum speed of 6MB/s, but Sandisk Ultra II write speed is min 15MB/s, Extreme 30MB/s. The 1536 x 1024 video is about 4,5MB/s, which might mean that these class 6 cards don't even do 6MB/s.

jimH · 08-04-2009, 01:12 PM

I use Sandisk Extreme III SD cards that accept data at the rate of 20MB/second. Same for the PNY Optima Pro SD

Pentaxor · 08-04-2009, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by flyer

I have problems using an "Adata C6 16gb", but no problems with my Sandisk. My "Panasonic C6 4gb." gives me about 5 min. before it quits.

the C6 A-DATASDHC has an ave write speed of 12MB/s and read of 22MB/s. sometimes it writes at around 6MB/s but not lower. that maybe the reason for the slow-downs or lags for it. you need atleast 30MB/s performance card for shooting videos or even pictures. I think A-DATA has a C10 SDHC already out in the market. I'm also considering getting one myself. the C6's that I have are insufficient for reviewing or viewing recently taken shots and quite takes awhile before the the buffer refreshes again. and I might just use the C6 that I have for backup. one for camera use (pictures and videos) and one backup for pc multimedia files and data files. the C10 would be my primary card for my camera.

mithrandir · 08-04-2009, 01:27 PM

Thanks for the information. Although I presently have a K10D I plan to eventually upgrade to the K7. This will keep me from buying media that will become obsolete.

schmik · 08-04-2009, 02:40 PM

Using a sandisk Ultra II 4gb. I can record video until the card is full. Yeah!

mike

netuser · 08-05-2009, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by schmik

Using a sandisk Ultra II 4gb. I can record video until the card is full. Yeah!

mike

How many minutes ?

schmik · 08-05-2009, 03:42 PM

This allows almost 10mins of video in 720p mode.

mike

netuser · 08-06-2009, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by schmik

This allows almost 10mins of video in 720p mode.

mike

Thanks

(cards will be needed

)

08-04-2009, 07:41 AM	#1
pasipasi Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oulu Photos: Gallery Posts: 532	Verbatim and Transcend class 6 sdhc cards not fast enough for K-7 video Hi In the past I've always gone for cheaper class 6 cards and have had no issues with them. With the K-7 I of course shot some test video right away, but noticed I could only get about 1 minute of video before the buffer was full and recording stopped. Then a friend pointed out that Sandisk Ultra cards are faster than some class 6 cards, even though they're class 4 cards. I found an old 1gb Sandisk Ultra card that I used with the K100ds and it turns out I can record until the card is full. Off to buy 8gb Ultra or Extreme card I guess

08-04-2009, 01:23 PM	#10
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by flyer I have problems using an "Adata C6 16gb", but no problems with my Sandisk. My "Panasonic C6 4gb." gives me about 5 min. before it quits. the C6 A-DATASDHC has an ave write speed of 12MB/s and read of 22MB/s. sometimes it writes at around 6MB/s but not lower. that maybe the reason for the slow-downs or lags for it. you need atleast 30MB/s performance card for shooting videos or even pictures. I think A-DATA has a C10 SDHC already out in the market. I'm also considering getting one myself. the C6's that I have are insufficient for reviewing or viewing recently taken shots and quite takes awhile before the the buffer refreshes again. and I might just use the C6 that I have for backup. one for camera use (pictures and videos) and one backup for pc multimedia files and data files. the C10 would be my primary card for my camera. Last edited by Pentaxor; 08-04-2009 at 01:36 PM.

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08-04-2009, 08:15 AM	#2
eva2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 239	probably comes down to write speed not read speed ?

08-04-2009, 08:30 AM	#3
pasipasi Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oulu Photos: Gallery Posts: 532 Original Poster	Yes that's true

08-04-2009, 09:39 AM	#4
pixel r0n1n Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 514 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 123	then the advertized read/write specs at class 6 doesn't hold weight when you consider the manufacturer? i have a class 6 8GB from Kingston, and running into same issues for video. it stops just over a minute or recording time. could it be a heating issue of the sensor as well? manual does state that video recording would stop should the sensor overheat, but with no direct access to temperature info, it's hard to tell. what experiences do others have with video recording and their SD card and of what class and make?

08-04-2009, 09:46 AM	#5
pasipasi Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oulu Photos: Gallery Posts: 532 Original Poster	Same temperature with Sandisk Ultra card and only the card size was limiting the video lenght.

08-04-2009, 10:07 AM	#6
flyer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ste-Anne des Plaines, Qc., Canada Posts: 2,013	I have problems using an "Adata C6 16gb", but no problems with my Sandisk. My "Panasonic C6 4gb." gives me about 5 min. before it quits.

08-04-2009, 10:13 AM	#7
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Nice I only buy scandisk cards to my k20d in case I upgrade soon ... (getting sooner then later by the minute lol)

08-04-2009, 10:58 AM	#8
pasipasi Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oulu Photos: Gallery Posts: 532 Original Poster	Class 6 cards only write a minimum speed of 6MB/s, but Sandisk Ultra II write speed is min 15MB/s, Extreme 30MB/s. The 1536 x 1024 video is about 4,5MB/s, which might mean that these class 6 cards don't even do 6MB/s.

08-04-2009, 01:12 PM	#9
jimH Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Central Nebraska - USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,771	I use Sandisk Extreme III SD cards that accept data at the rate of 20MB/second. Same for the PNY Optima Pro SD

08-04-2009, 01:27 PM	#11
mithrandir Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,895	Thanks for the information. Although I presently have a K10D I plan to eventually upgrade to the K7. This will keep me from buying media that will become obsolete.

08-04-2009, 02:40 PM	#12
schmik Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sydney Aus Photos: Gallery Posts: 527	Using a sandisk Ultra II 4gb. I can record video until the card is full. Yeah! mike

08-05-2009, 11:32 AM	#13
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Originally posted by schmik Using a sandisk Ultra II 4gb. I can record video until the card is full. Yeah! mike How many minutes ?

08-05-2009, 03:42 PM	#14
schmik Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sydney Aus Photos: Gallery Posts: 527	This allows almost 10mins of video in 720p mode. mike

08-06-2009, 09:07 AM	#15
netuser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Azores Islands, Portugal Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,236	Originally posted by schmik This allows almost 10mins of video in 720p mode. mike Thanks (cards will be needed )