PentaxForums.com  

Go Back   PentaxForums.com > Pentax Photography > Pentax Film SLR Discussion

Pentax Film SLR Discussion Talk about modern and classic Pentax film SLR's in this forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-01-2008, 12:36 PM   #1
Pentaxian
 
deejjjaaaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: steel city / rust belt
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 998
question for all of u grain lovers...

which plug-in (if you have experience) comes close to (or beat ) the real thing :

1) DXO filmpack

2) Nik Silver EFex Pro

3) Alienskin Exposure2

4) B/W Styler (www.thepluginsite.com)

5) something else (like Andy/AndyPro PlugIn for BibblePro)
__________________
deejjjaaaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2008, 06:35 PM   #2
Site Supporter
 
Nesster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NJ USA
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 1,234
I use virtual photographer because it's free, though I'm sure many of those on your list do much better... free works for me.

I am curious as to what people with experience with these have to say though. Thanks for asking!
Nesster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2008, 06:15 AM   #3
Site Supporter
 
séamuis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: here & now
Gallery Photos: 6
Posts: 1,405
I use Exposure2 myself and its amazing and very accurate, with allot of choices in film as well as individual adjustments to the presets: including grains size and strength among many others.I can highly recommend Exposure2, and am very satisfied with it. It very accurately represents both the Ilford HP5 plus 400 and Delta 100 that I commonly use in 35mm, and apply it to all of my digital photos. I cant give a comment on the others but Exposure2 is wonderful.

here is a glimpse of Exposure2's layout and settings.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2725151290_f3b5618b42_o.jpg<-for full res

Click on the image to view it in a larger size
Click on the image to view it in a larger size

__________________
'If it isn't an Eastman, it isn't a Kodak'
Asahi Pentax MX | smc-M 28mm 2,0 | smc-M 35mm 2,8 | smc-M 50mm 1,7 | smc-M 85mm 2,0 | Ilford & Kodak
aperturefoundation | Street Photography & Winogrand | J.E.Moore Photography
'Đời cha ăn mặn, đời con khát nước.'

Last edited by séamuis; 08-02-2008 at 09:29 AM..
séamuis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2008, 09:24 AM   #4
Pentaxian
 
deejjjaaaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: steel city / rust belt
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 998
Originally Posted by séamuis View Post

here is a glimpse of Exposure2's layout and settings.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/-signal...51290/sizes/o/ <-for full res


oops - "THIS PAGE IS PRIVATE"
__________________
deejjjaaaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2008, 09:29 AM   #5
Site Supporter
 
séamuis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: here & now
Gallery Photos: 6
Posts: 1,405
I fixed the link, should work now.
__________________
'If it isn't an Eastman, it isn't a Kodak'
Asahi Pentax MX | smc-M 28mm 2,0 | smc-M 35mm 2,8 | smc-M 50mm 1,7 | smc-M 85mm 2,0 | Ilford & Kodak
aperturefoundation | Street Photography & Winogrand | J.E.Moore Photography
'Đời cha ăn mặn, đời con khát nước.'
séamuis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 01:06 AM   #6
Pentaxian
 
deejjjaaaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: steel city / rust belt
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 998
got my hands on that Exposure 2

sleepy one :

__________________
deejjjaaaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 01:17 AM   #7
Site Supporter
 
séamuis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: here & now
Gallery Photos: 6
Posts: 1,405
how do you like it so far?
__________________
'If it isn't an Eastman, it isn't a Kodak'
Asahi Pentax MX | smc-M 28mm 2,0 | smc-M 35mm 2,8 | smc-M 50mm 1,7 | smc-M 85mm 2,0 | Ilford & Kodak
aperturefoundation | Street Photography & Winogrand | J.E.Moore Photography
'Đời cha ăn mặn, đời con khát nước.'
séamuis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 09:32 AM   #8
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Ottawa Canada
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 42
Nice looking grain. Do these programs do anything to the dynamic range of a photo? I assume it just mimics the contrast and grain structure right?
Nick_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 09:46 PM   #9
Pentaxian
 
deejjjaaaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: steel city / rust belt
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 998
Originally Posted by séamuis View Post
how do you like it so far?
I did not use it enough so far to say something - and certainly I am not expert
to compare it grainwise w/ Nik Silver Efex Pro that I was using earlier... looks similar, Exposure2 has more "films" vs Efex - but do we really need that much of them ?
__________________
deejjjaaaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 06:26 PM   #10
Pentaxian
 
jgredline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: LosAngeles, Ca.
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 1,484
To my untrained eyes, it looks more like noise than grain. It looks pixalated to me. Is there a way to tone it down a tad?

I have read many things on this and from what I have read and seen, this is one of two areas digital can't touch film.
__________________

Thx, Javier
Hunting with a
Pentax K1000, ME Super, K100D Super,K10D, K20D,
Point & shoots.......Canon G9, Fuji S100fs & Fuji S9100
jgredline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 08:42 PM   #11
Pentaxian
 
deejjjaaaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: steel city / rust belt
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 998
Originally Posted by jgredline View Post
To my untrained eyes, it looks more like noise than grain. It looks pixalated to me. Is there a way to tone it down a tad?

I have read many things on this and from what I have read and seen, this is one of two areas digital can't touch film.
may be - here is the original and original -> kodak tri-x 400 (one click in Exposure 2)





__________________
deejjjaaaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 08:52 PM   #12
Pentaxian
 
jgredline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: LosAngeles, Ca.
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 1,484
Originally Posted by deejjjaaaa View Post
may be - here is the original and original -> kodak tri-x 400 (one click in Exposure 2)





I guess I don't follow. I was under the impression that Tri-x was only black and white?
I use it often and have never thought to check if I was getting color film.
__________________

Thx, Javier
Hunting with a
Pentax K1000, ME Super, K100D Super,K10D, K20D,
Point & shoots.......Canon G9, Fuji S100fs & Fuji S9100
jgredline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 08:59 PM   #13
Pentaxian
 
deejjjaaaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: steel city / rust belt
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 998
Originally Posted by jgredline View Post
I guess I don't follow. I was under the impression that Tri-x was only black and white?
I use it often and have never thought to check if I was getting color film.
this is the original shot w/ K20D + Sigma 24-135/2.8-4.5 @ 55mm, f4.5, 1/160, iso800 and the same converted to b/w using "Kodak Tri-X 400" emulation in Exposure2 plug-in for Adobe Photoshop.
__________________
deejjjaaaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 09:26 PM   #14
Pentaxian
 
jgredline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: LosAngeles, Ca.
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 1,484
Originally Posted by deejjjaaaa View Post
this is the original shot w/ K20D + Sigma 24-135/2.8-4.5 @ 55mm, f4.5, 1/160, iso800 and the same converted to b/w using "Kodak Tri-X 400" emulation in Exposure2 plug-in for Adobe Photoshop.
Oh, I see...It does not look like film to me much less Tri-x.
It really looks like noise to me...
__________________

Thx, Javier
Hunting with a
Pentax K1000, ME Super, K100D Super,K10D, K20D,
Point & shoots.......Canon G9, Fuji S100fs & Fuji S9100
jgredline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 09:33 PM   #15
Pentaxian
 
jgredline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: LosAngeles, Ca.
Gallery Photos: 0
Posts: 1,484
Here is a pci shot with tri-x400

__________________

Thx, Javier
Hunting with a
Pentax K1000, ME Super, K100D Super,K10D, K20D,
Point & shoots.......Canon G9, Fuji S100fs & Fuji S9100
jgredline is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:53 AM.

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.