Old spotmatic bag, original?

Erasmo · 01-23-2009, 04:20 PM

I just scored this old spotmatic, it came in a really nice bag, but is it the original?

Mike Cash · 01-23-2009, 04:42 PM

It is almost certainly contemporary, but there would be no such thing as an "original" bag that came together with the camera. If there were, it would be an "ever-ready" type case sold as an accessory.

I can't see very well in the photo, but the letters between the film rewind and the pentaprism look like "S1". If so, then this would be a pre-Spotmatic camera.

**Damn Brit** · 01-23-2009, 05:01 PM

Moved to Film Camera forum.

*woof* · 01-23-2009, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Erasmo

I just scored this old spotmatic, it came in a really nice bag, but is it the original?

From what I can see, I agree with Mike... it's an S1. VERY nice pre-Spotmatic camera.

The case is in good shape. it would not be OEM Paentax, but a generic camera case. Certainly contemporary, you have a very, very nice collection there.

Seaain

Arjay Bee · 01-23-2009, 11:21 PM

The external meter on the pentaprism means it is not a spotmeter and as others have pointed out it is an S1. What are the lenses you have with it and what are there condition. i have a similar bag with the little baffles and separated compartments in black. It also has a hinged compartment/tray higher in the bag for filters and covers etc. funky, aye.

*ChrisPlatt* · 01-24-2009, 12:12 AM

That case is probably 30-40 years old, the camera a bit older.

Chris

stevebrot · 01-24-2009, 12:44 AM

Yes...Show us the LENSES!!!

Steve

*woof* · 01-24-2009, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisPlatt

That case is probably 30-40 years old, the camera a bit older.

Yes, I have the camera as introduced in April 1961 and discontinued in 1962. I have seen dates of production through 1963... so that's up in the air a little.

As this series goes, this camera is on the rarer side with circa 46,500 made. It's not as rare as an "AP," "S," or a "K" but it is the fourth rarest of the series that includes those models and which ends with the S1a and the SV.

woof

*séamuis* · 01-24-2009, 06:39 AM

Pentax did in fact have leather hard cases like these for storing camera, lenses and accessories. but as already mentioned I think this particular case is a bit more contemporary. it certainly isn't Pentax and its very unlikely that it is as old as the camera.

Erasmo · 01-24-2009, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by woof

Yes, I have the camera as introduced in April 1961 and discontinued in 1962. I have seen dates of production through 1963... so that's up in the air a little.

As this series goes, this camera is on the rarer side with circa 46,500 made. It's not as rare as an "AP," "S," or a "K" but it is the fourth rarest of the series that includes those models and which ends with the S1a and the SV.

woof

The serialnumber starts with 44 so i think it is one of the latest made.

And now some (quick and dirty) pictures:

The camera with a 'Fodor' 2x teleconverter:

A Meyer-optik Görlitz Trioplan 2.8/100:

An Eyemik auto mc 2.8/135:

Total damage to my wallet: €35

*woof* · 01-24-2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by séamuis

Pentax did in fact have leather hard cases like these for storing camera, lenses and accessories. but as already mentioned I think this particular case is a bit more contemporary. it certainly isn't Pentax and its very unlikely that it is as old as the camera.

Yep... Right as usual Séamuis... I didn't want to get into that too much... but since we've broached it... there was a whole line of OEM Pentax hard cases such as the following. One auction says it can be used for a K1000, but I think these are actually a bit older. Never been able to pin this type down in any accessory catalogs, though I have seen a whole line of black and brown leather cases in a later (but not much) catalogs. I see these in my travels quite a bit. Always felt they were about early Spotmatic on... the Asahi one might be a little older. Almost perfect for that S1.

Original Pentax Carrying Case for K1000 ME Super LX KM - eBay (item 350157527965 end time Feb-22-09 19:32:02 PST)

Asahi Pentax Spotmatic Outfit carrying Case 10x9x5-Nice - eBay (item 270332541454 end time Jan-28-09 22:07:49 PST)

This is instructive with respect to the the bags available in the K1000/MX/ME timeframe... (use password "Pentax") and see pg 57

http://www.pentax-manuals.com/litera...es_early_m.pdf

woof!

Mechan1k · 01-24-2009, 12:15 PM

For the price you paid man ... that's a steal ... that lot is immaculate ... and that's a hell of a nice carry case as well.

All I can say is you did very well indeed.

Erasmo · 01-25-2009, 07:25 AM

The bag and camera and meyer are staying, the 135 can go because i already have a Pentax F135.