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#1 | | Pentax Super A/Super Program Camera Information/Reviews | Super A/Super Program | Year introduced 1983 | Mount KA | Meter range 1 - 19 EV | Meter pattern c | ISO range 6 - 3200 | DX ISO range No DX coding | Exposure modes P, Tv, Av, M, X, B | Exposure compensation +/-2 EV | Exposure lock No | Shutter speeds (auto) 15 - 1/2000s | Shutter speeds (manual) 15 - 1/2000s | Shutter speeds (mechanical) None | Self timer Yes | Mirror lock-up No | Auto bracketing No | Multiple exposures No | Winder External winder 2 fps, motor drive 2 and 3.5 fps | Built-in flash No | TTL flash Yes | P-TTL flash No | Sync speed 1/125s | Flash exposure comp No | Autofocus No | Autofocus sensitivity Not applicable | Power zoom No | Viewfinder 0.82x, 92% | Viewfinder type Pentaprism | Diopter correction No | Exchangeable screen No | Depth of field preview Yes | Image size 24 x 36 mm | Panorama format No | Battery 2 x S76 | Battery grip/pack No | Size (W x H x D) 131 x 86.5 x 47.5 mm | Weight 490 g | Comment The first Pentax with Program and Tv autoexposure |
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05-26-2009, 06:03 AM
#2 New Member
I think the contacts introduced with the Super Program (my first Pentax) let the body SENSE the aperture setting, not set it. The linkage that drives the autodiaphragm already let the camera control it, by moving the close-down lever and hence the blades more or less. The lens does not contain anything like a motor that could use information sent through the contacts to move the blades to some particular position.
But otherwise I agree, nice description, nice pictures!
Bob Wilson
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05-26-2009, 11:12 AM
#3 Site Supporter
I had thought actually that the whole auto-diaphragm mechanism is in fact what the Super Program introduced. You set the lens on "A" and the camera could then either match the aperture to whatever shutter speed you set, or set both for the first "program" mode in Pentax.
Do I have that wrong?
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05-27-2009, 09:32 PM
#4 Administrator Originally Posted by rlwilsonjr I think the contacts introduced with the Super Program (my first Pentax) let the body SENSE the aperture setting, not set it. The linkage that drives the autodiaphragm already let the camera control it, by moving the close-down lever and hence the blades more or less. The lens does not contain anything like a motor that could use information sent through the contacts to move the blades to some particular position.
But otherwise I agree, nice description, nice pictures!
Bob Wilson Strictly speaking, you're correct. The aperture is set by the camera by moving the stop down lever on the lens. The camera displays the automatically set aperture in the view finder. Neither would be possible without the lens contacts which encode the min. aperture of the lens and the number of f-stops which the lens covers.
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05-27-2009, 09:34 PM
#5 Administrator Originally Posted by lawsonstone I had thought actually that the whole auto-diaphragm mechanism is in fact what the Super Program introduced. You set the lens on "A" and the camera could then either match the aperture to whatever shutter speed you set, or set both for the first "program" mode in Pentax.
Do I have that wrong? You have that right. Not until the "A" lenses were program and Tv automation possible.
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05-27-2009, 09:41 PM
#6 Administrator
Here is an additional picture of the Super Program which shows the mechanical and electrical coupling for the winder/motor drive.
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06-08-2009, 10:32 AM
#7 Site Supporter
Just a little note...my OCD side can't help but note that this camera, for which the A series of lenses was produced, is portrayed here with an (excellent!) M-Series lens!
Okay, I have that out of my system now...breathe....
Thanks for this wonderful database!
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06-09-2009, 07:35 PM
#8 Loyal Member
Maybe the nicest MF camera built by Pentax? My experience now covers the P30T, the ME super, and this one. I think the Super program is the necest of them all, it has the ruggedness of the ME Super and the better handling of newer models (especially with the small grip for the right hand fingers).
Never used it much with film, but handled one for some time before letting it go. Really a nice thing to use, if you're into film. As fully featured as anyone could wish, I think.
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06-12-2009, 08:11 AM
#9 Loyal Member
After having experience with the KX, ME, ME Super, ZX-M, and Super Program, I would agree that, overall, the Super Program is best. It offers better handling, a motor drive, a 1/2000 shutter speed, and many other useful features. The SP's viewfinder display is excellent, and its build quality is quite good.
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07-04-2009, 05:00 PM
#10 Member
The big plus of the Super Program is TTL flash. The big negative is that I find the LCD viewfinder difficult. In weak light you need the illumination button..which give barely enough backlight. The real thing..I wear glasses and the LCD is so located that I have trouble seeing the full display and when I can the LCD numbers are blocky and take getting used to. The P3n went back to a shutter dial. The ME Super was a bit smaller-with a nice viewfinder (LED)..but neither had TTL flash.
If the P3n had TTL and spot meter....it could have been a terrific camera. Pentax later did put everything togather with the ZX5n....though the viewfinder again was difficult.
For flash..if you don't wear glasses...the Super Prog is quite solid.
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07-08-2009, 04:08 AM
#11 Loyal Member
I prefer the Program-A since it does not have a motor drive
I believe otherwise tey are (almost) the same
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07-10-2009, 07:44 AM
#12 Administrator Site Webmaster
The Program-A doesn't have Tv mode, while the Super A does. That's the key difference.
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09-17-2009, 12:12 AM
#13 Senior Member Originally Posted by Adam The Program-A doesn't have Tv mode, while the Super A does. That's the key difference. Other differences are:
1) The Progam-A had only a 1/1000 max shutter speed compared to the 1/2000 of the Super-A.
2) Super-A flash sync speed is 1/125, Program-A is 1/100
3) Super-A has a top LCD.
4) Super-A has a film winding confirmation window.
5) Super-A has an viewfinder LCD backlight.
(There may be more differences but that's all I remember)
The Program A is a nice camera but is really just a stripped-down budget version of Super-A - which is undoubtedly the better camera. (I had both).
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10-29-2009, 02:19 AM
#14 Site Supporter Originally Posted by Ron Redwood The big plus of the Super Program is TTL flash. The big negative is that I find the LCD viewfinder difficult. In weak light you need the illumination button..which give barely enough backlight. The real thing..I wear glasses and the LCD is so located that I have trouble seeing the full display and when I can the LCD numbers are blocky and take getting used to. The P3n went back to a shutter dial. The ME Super was a bit smaller-with a nice viewfinder (LED)..but neither had TTL flash.
If the P3n had TTL and spot meter....it could have been a terrific camera. Pentax later did put everything togather with the ZX5n....though the viewfinder again was difficult.
For flash..if you don't wear glasses...the Super Prog is quite solid. The P3n did have TTL.
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