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This is a discussion on New Kodak SLR -- K-mount?, part of the Pentax Cameras: Pentax News and Rumors category, related to kmount, kodak, slr: I ran across this new item about an SLR to be released by Kodak, from Vivitar. Plans for Kodak-branded 35mm film-based SLR camera unveiled; Vivitar signs two-year deal to make ...

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03-07-2008, 08:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New Kodak SLR -- K-mount?

I ran across this new item about an SLR to be released by Kodak, from Vivitar.

Plans for Kodak-branded 35mm film-based SLR camera unveiled; Vivitar signs two-year deal to make Kodak film cameras news - Amateur Photographer - news, camera reviews, lens reviews, camera equipment guides, photography courses, competitions, photogra

Is it safe to assume this will be a K-mount camera? It would be nice to see a big name backing a new K-mount 35mm camera.

Is there really no market left for the MZ-M? or the MZ-5? Photography classes around the world must be tired of scrambling for used cameras...
03-07-2008, 09:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Is it safe to assume this will be a K-mount camera? It would be nice to see a big name backing a new K-mount 35mm camera.
It really would be nice, but I wouldn't bet on it. I think previous Kodak SLRs have a Nikon mount.
03-07-2008, 10:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The statement that it would be similar to the Vivitar V3000(n?) implies that it might be K-mount. And it wouldn't be the first time Vivitar has rebadged that camera, i.e. the Kenko KF-4PK. However, someone over on RFF reported that the Vivitar has serious durability problems (post #45):

Film Not Dead Yet, Says Kodak - Introduces Film SLR - Page 2 - Rangefinderforum.com
03-07-2008, 04:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Would be interesting if Kodak used the K-mount for that. Who knows, one day, they might go back to doing DSLRs and use a K-mount instead of the Nikon and Canon mounts they used to do.

I'll be keeping tabs on Kodak's project. It would be nice to be able to get a new K-mount film SLR for people I'm looking to hook into photography. Used equipment here tend to be a bit more expensive than in the US, so I'll wait and see how this one pans out.
03-07-2008, 04:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You could buy this one

Quote Originally posted by vinzer Quote
Would be interesting if Kodak used the K-mount for that. Who knows, one day, they might go back to doing DSLRs and use a K-mount instead of the Nikon and Canon mounts they used to do.

I'll be keeping tabs on Kodak's project. It would be nice to be able to get a new K-mount film SLR for people I'm looking to hook into photography. Used equipment here tend to be a bit more expensive than in the US, so I'll wait and see how this one pans out.
VSL43 K-Mount Voigltander SLR
It's a Voitlander

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03-08-2008, 06:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hey Jeff, thanks for the heads-up! I'll look this one up.

Is this model exclusive to PhotoVillage only? I was hoping it'd be available in B&H or some such.

Going back on-topic, I hope Kodak takes further interest in the K-mount, and consider using it if ever they think of doing DSLRs again.
03-08-2008, 09:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I just want to point out that even if Kodak SLR use K-mount lenses your Pentax auto focus lenses night not work with it.

Sigma uses a modified version of the K-Mount on their bodies.
So with a little time you can adapt any Pentax K-Mount lens to fit. And the screw mount adapter can be used with no mods at all.

However they have built their bodies with the same electronics's as Canon uses.
If you try putting a K-Mount fitting onto the Canon lens it'll stick in too far, where the contacts will all bind not allowing you to twist it on.
Making it almost impossible to use a modified canon lens.
So if you want a fully automatic lens for your Sigma camera your stuck buying it straight from them.

There's nothing stopping Kodak from using the same practices. And I really don't see anything wrong with it.
03-08-2008, 05:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Got it. Thanks for the heads-up Stu.
03-10-2008, 07:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Quote Originally posted by little laker Quote
I just want to point out that even if Kodak SLR use K-mount lenses your Pentax auto focus lenses night not work with it.

Sigma uses a modified version of the K-Mount on their bodies.
So with a little time you can adapt any Pentax K-Mount lens to fit. And the screw mount adapter can be used with no mods at all.

However they have built their bodies with the same electronics's as Canon uses.
If you try putting a K-Mount fitting onto the Canon lens it'll stick in too far, where the contacts will all bind not allowing you to twist it on.
Making it almost impossible to use a modified canon lens.
So if you want a fully automatic lens for your Sigma camera your stuck buying it straight from them.

There's nothing stopping Kodak from using the same practices. And I really don't see anything wrong with it.

The difference between Sigma and Kodak is that Kodak makes most of their money on consumables, not hardware. A Kodak SLR would likely be a loss-leader convenience item, to ensure a steady supply of machines that shoot Kodak film. Much the same as the Kodak point-and-shoot 35mm cameras. Hence, unlike Sigma, they have less interest in making money by locking people into their hardware system.

Here's a question -- has anyone here used the Voigtlander or the Vivitar 3800? Do your Pentax lenses work?

Dave
03-10-2008, 05:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Quote Originally posted by vinzer Quote
Would be interesting if Kodak used the K-mount for that. Who knows, one day, they might go back to doing DSLRs and use a K-mount instead of the Nikon and Canon mounts they used to do.

I'll be keeping tabs on Kodak's project. It would be nice to be able to get a new K-mount film SLR for people I'm looking to hook into photography. Used equipment here tend to be a bit more expensive than in the US, so I'll wait and see how this one pans out.
The Vivitar is made by Cosina, which also makes the film camera sold by Nikon as the FM10 (which continues to be in production, so it is not likely Kodak will be able to market a Nikon F mount film camera. The whole thing is rather pointless since lots of late model AF cameras are available on the used market for the cost of a few rolls of film plus processing, and sometimes even less. So why bother buying a new manual focus film camera with a raucous shutter sound and loud mirror slap?
03-10-2008, 05:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Given this quote from the article ...

"'Vivitar has plans to develop a Kodak SLR camera similar to the Vivitar V3000s,' said Vivitar UK CEO Abbas Bhanji who added: 'The planned KV100 is, at the moment, at the development stages and once released will be aimed at educational institutes who specialise in traditional photography.' "

I would assume a K1000 like camera with a Pentax K mount.

The V3000's had a K-mount.

03-10-2008, 06:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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V3800n

This is the current incarnation I guess:
Vivitar | V3800N Camera Body, 50mm f/1.7 Lens | 59880 | B&H
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