K-7 introducing electronic viewfinder?

cateto · 05-15-2009, 05:46 AM

From the information gathered around the net, but mostly, from a couple of articles published at DSLRMagazine.com and Pentax DSLRs blog, I make my bet:

We will see electronic viewfinder in the K-7. I discuss in more depth in my blog, but the main info is provided in the original Pentax patent. This would back completely the claims made by Yvon Bourque about the other brands catching-up after the K-7 release.

Only a few days to see whether I am right or wrong (and no, I have no NDA or inside info whatsoever: just info found in the net).

xhanatos · 05-15-2009, 05:48 AM

Pentax do it again!

Kunzite · 05-15-2009, 05:51 AM

Again: no, we won't.

cateto · 05-15-2009, 06:06 AM

As far as I know, nobody with evidenced inside info has discarded this possibility yet.

But regardless, if there will be no EVF in the K-7, can anybody explain why the other brands will play catch-up after the release of K-7?

As far as I know, and if we exclude EVF, all other features wich are supposed to be in the K-7 (better autofocus, improved noise at low light, video, etc etc) are all available in models of the competition. And I can't imagine that all the noise made around the K-7 will be only to introduce a model with the same features as the competition: would not make sense.

Yvon Bourque has an NDA and he knows what he's speaking about. This, in my opinion, looks very promising and utilizing the EVF would actually put the competition catching up, since it's patented by Pentax.

ogl · 05-15-2009, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Again: no, we won't.

I think that we will see something.

cateto · 05-15-2009, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by ogl

I think that you are not right, not wrong.

Ogl, I don't know if you actually have inside info or not, but comments like this are truly useless. If you have info and can give it, shoot.

If you can't (or have not info) it would be better to say nothing IMHO. "You are not right, not wrong" means nothing at all in my book.

Kunzite · 05-15-2009, 06:18 AM

It's the other way around: nobody with inside info has even hinted it will have this feature.

I don't know about the play catch-up part... it won't be a sci-fi, uber-super-duper-advanced camera; but I'd say it will pack most features for it's price, as the K10D did when it was launched.
And let's say that, if someone will tell me the K7 it will have a viewfinder far better than anything else (APS-C only, of course), it means he doesn't know what he's talking about. Btw, even now the competition has to play catch-up - weather sealing at this price? It doesn't have to be the viewfinder, and it isn't.
Don't expect miracles, it's just a camera. An improved camera, yes, feature-packed, but nothing more than that. Or, expect miracles then be disappointed when you find out the truth.

Ogl, please explain what you mean with that. Am I not right? Am I not wrong? If I'm neither, what's left?

cateto · 05-15-2009, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

It's the other way around: nobody with inside info has even hinted it will have this feature.

In the case this feature is actually present in the K-7, I'm sure it would be one of the points specified in the NDA to avoid disclosure before the official introduction. So it is unsurprising that people under NDA has not hinted at this feature.

RaduA · 05-15-2009, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by cateto

Ogl, I don't know if you actually have inside info or not, but comments like this are truly useless. If you have info and can give it, shoot.

If you can't (or have not info) it would be better to say nothing IMHO. "You are not right, not wrong" means nothing at all in my book.

Hi, Cateto!

You're wrong though it means something. That either way he can claim he knew correctly!

Radu

Btw, Alex is right this camera will give not only a lot for the money but also a very desirable combination of features without the chronic Pentax weaknesses. Other than that I don't think it will end famine on Earth or stop all wars. And the unique Pentax twist could be one of it's features depending on who appreciates what.

lol101 · 05-15-2009, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by cateto

Ogl, I don't know if you actually have inside info or not, but comments like this are truly useless. If you have info and can give it, shoot.

If you can't (or have not info) it would be better to say nothing IMHO. "You are not right, not wrong" means nothing at all in my book.

Yeah but it feels so good showing that you're "in the know"... :ugh:

Kunzite · 05-15-2009, 06:43 AM

Yes, everything points to an excellent, feature-packed camera. I'm a bit concerned about ergonomics, though... I'm afraid it will be a step down from the K20D. But one must really try it before drawing conclusions.

blende8 · 05-15-2009, 07:18 AM

What ogl says means something.
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
And I know that what ogl means is right.

KungPOW · 05-15-2009, 07:28 AM

To me ogl's cryptic reply is the same as "you are close, but not 100% there."

I doubt if Pentax would ever go to a pure EVF. I just cannot see it.

But I could see some type of information overlay in the viewfinder. So it would use EVF type components intended for user information. But I do not see it for images.

Johnny Canuck · 05-15-2009, 07:28 AM

I'm not %100 sure and please correct me if I'm wrong but what if that specail ability that other manufacutes need to catch up on is the ability to Auto focus in movie mode? I'm pretty sure Cannon/Nikon are not able to do this. I know the he GH1 can do it but it is not a DSLR.

ogl · 05-15-2009, 07:34 AM

Canon 5D Mk II has AF in video mode.

It seems to me that we can shoot video at K-7 thru optical VF.

05-15-2009, 05:46 AM	#1
cateto Senior Member	K-7 introducing electronic viewfinder From the information gathered around the net, but mostly, from a couple of articles published at DSLRMagazine.com and Pentax DSLRs blog, I make my bet: We will see electronic viewfinder in the K-7. I discuss in more depth in my blog, but the main info is provided in the original Pentax patent. This would back completely the claims made by Yvon Bourque about the other brands catching-up after the K-7 release. Only a few days to see whether I am right or wrong (and no, I have no NDA or inside info whatsoever: just info found in the net).

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05-15-2009, 05:48 AM	#2
xhanatos Veteran Member	Pentax do it again!

05-15-2009, 05:51 AM	#3
Kunzite Pentaxian	Again: no, we won't.

05-15-2009, 06:06 AM	#4
cateto Senior Member	As far as I know, nobody with evidenced inside info has discarded this possibility yet. But regardless, if there will be no EVF in the K-7, can anybody explain why the other brands will play catch-up after the release of K-7? As far as I know, and if we exclude EVF, all other features wich are supposed to be in the K-7 (better autofocus, improved noise at low light, video, etc etc) are all available in models of the competition. And I can't imagine that all the noise made around the K-7 will be only to introduce a model with the same features as the competition: would not make sense. Yvon Bourque has an NDA and he knows what he's speaking about. This, in my opinion, looks very promising and utilizing the EVF would actually put the competition catching up, since it's patented by Pentax.

05-15-2009, 06:10 AM	#5
ogl Pentaxian	Originally posted by Kunzite Again: no, we won't. I think that we will see something.

05-15-2009, 06:13 AM	#6
cateto Senior Member	Originally posted by ogl I think that you are not right, not wrong. Ogl, I don't know if you actually have inside info or not, but comments like this are truly useless. If you have info and can give it, shoot. If you can't (or have not info) it would be better to say nothing IMHO. "You are not right, not wrong" means nothing at all in my book.

05-15-2009, 06:18 AM	#7
Kunzite Pentaxian	It's the other way around: nobody with inside info has even hinted it will have this feature. I don't know about the play catch-up part... it won't be a sci-fi, uber-super-duper-advanced camera; but I'd say it will pack most features for it's price, as the K10D did when it was launched. And let's say that, if someone will tell me the K7 it will have a viewfinder far better than anything else (APS-C only, of course), it means he doesn't know what he's talking about. Btw, even now the competition has to play catch-up - weather sealing at this price? It doesn't have to be the viewfinder, and it isn't. Don't expect miracles, it's just a camera. An improved camera, yes, feature-packed, but nothing more than that. Or, expect miracles then be disappointed when you find out the truth. Ogl, please explain what you mean with that. Am I not right? Am I not wrong? If I'm neither, what's left?

05-15-2009, 06:22 AM	#8
cateto Senior Member	Originally posted by Kunzite It's the other way around: nobody with inside info has even hinted it will have this feature. In the case this feature is actually present in the K-7, I'm sure it would be one of the points specified in the NDA to avoid disclosure before the official introduction. So it is unsurprising that people under NDA has not hinted at this feature.

05-15-2009, 06:28 AM	#9
RaduA Guest	Originally posted by cateto Ogl, I don't know if you actually have inside info or not, but comments like this are truly useless. If you have info and can give it, shoot. If you can't (or have not info) it would be better to say nothing IMHO. "You are not right, not wrong" means nothing at all in my book. Hi, Cateto! You're wrong though it means something. That either way he can claim he knew correctly! Radu Btw, Alex is right this camera will give not only a lot for the money but also a very desirable combination of features without the chronic Pentax weaknesses. Other than that I don't think it will end famine on Earth or stop all wars. And the unique Pentax twist could be one of it's features depending on who appreciates what.

05-15-2009, 06:42 AM	#10
lol101 Veteran Member	Originally posted by cateto Ogl, I don't know if you actually have inside info or not, but comments like this are truly useless. If you have info and can give it, shoot. If you can't (or have not info) it would be better to say nothing IMHO. "You are not right, not wrong" means nothing at all in my book. Yeah but it feels so good showing that you're "in the know"... :ugh:

05-15-2009, 06:43 AM	#11
Kunzite Pentaxian	Yes, everything points to an excellent, feature-packed camera. I'm a bit concerned about ergonomics, though... I'm afraid it will be a step down from the K20D. But one must really try it before drawing conclusions.

05-15-2009, 07:18 AM	#12
blende8 Pentaxian	What ogl says means something. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. And I know that what ogl means is right.

05-15-2009, 07:28 AM	#13
KungPOW Pentaxian	To me ogl's cryptic reply is the same as "you are close, but not 100% there." I doubt if Pentax would ever go to a pure EVF. I just cannot see it. But I could see some type of information overlay in the viewfinder. So it would use EVF type components intended for user information. But I do not see it for images.

05-15-2009, 07:28 AM	#14
Johnny Canuck New Member	I'm not %100 sure and please correct me if I'm wrong but what if that specail ability that other manufacutes need to catch up on is the ability to Auto focus in movie mode? I'm pretty sure Cannon/Nikon are not able to do this. I know the he GH1 can do it but it is not a DSLR.

05-15-2009, 07:34 AM	#15
ogl Pentaxian	Canon 5D Mk II has AF in video mode. It seems to me that we can shoot video at K-7 thru optical VF.