DA 14mm vs DA* 16-50mm

[dafiryde]

Originally Posted by Parallax

Yes, you caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nn. That's what the tests were developed for. A standardized, quantitative, objective method to compare sharpness, vignetting, etc. Imatest - SFR results: MTF (Sharpness) plot

this is why i tried to be honest here, and then you come in and remark exactly, what i see a lot of being posted
it is stuppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppid to compare, the sweetness of apples to oranges, just the same to compare primes to zooms.

Dave

[evilcat]

Originally Posted by clawhammer

[tongue-in-cheek] Make life easy- get a Mac [/tongue-in-cheek]

Originally Posted by dafiryde

i will be honest here
you cannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnot compare apples to oranges
you cannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnot compare a prime to a zoom
you wonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt compare a bently with a ford pinto
Dave

You cannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnot compare a mac to a pc. The mac is far superior on so many levels.

[Parallax]

Originally Posted by dafiryde

this is why i tried to be honest here, and then you come in and remark exactly, what i see a lot of being posted
it is stuppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppid to compare, the sweetness of apples to oranges, just the same to compare primes to zooms.

Dave

Sweetness, or flavor, is subjective and can not be compared. You caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn compare, for example, the ratio of liquid to solid between an apple and an orange, you can compare the pH of the two. You can determine which of the two has more calories per gram of weight. These are all quantitative tests, just as you caaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn compare the resolution in LW/PH of any two lenses, prime or zoom. I am not challenging your honesty, just the accuracy of the statement.

[Cambo]

Originally Posted by Lance B

Hmm. Doesn't this really depend on the user? I have the DA*16-50 and the DA14 and I use the DA14 quite considerably and possibly as much as the DA*16-50.

once you go wide, there's no going back. It took me a few years to get into my FA*24 back in the film days, but once I got it, it was true love.

But for a recent newcomer to photography, I think the 16-50 would be a better choice - or the 18-55II, and money left over for another lens or two.

Cheers,
Cameron

[Cambo]

Originally Posted by dafiryde

i will be honest here
you cannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnot compare apples to oranges
you cannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnot compare a prime to a zoom
you wonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt compare a bently with a ford pinto
Dave

Unplug it, turbn it upside down, and shake it and tap it gently, then vaccuum it, then maybe your NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN key won't stick so bad.

Or maybe it's just a Tobagian accennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt.

Cheers,
Cameron

[dafiryde]

Originally Posted by Parallax

Sweetness, or flavor, is subjective and can not be compared. You caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn compare, for example, the ratio of liquid to solid between an apple and an orange, you can compare the pH of the two. You can determine which of the two has more calories per gram of weight. These are all quantitative tests, just as you caaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn compare the resolution in LW/PH of any two lenses, prime or zoom. I am not challenging your honesty, just the accuracy of the statement.

in a nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn ut shell
a prime is a prime
a zoom is many primes in one, and is known to have a compramise in IQ, so it will be very distasteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeful for one to try and compare the results from a zoom with a prime

really think about it , would you race a formular 1 against a ford pinto, they are both cars with 4 wheels, thinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats why we gota brain in our heads

Dave

[dafiryde]

Originally Posted by Cambo

Unplug it, turbn it upside down, and shake it and tap it gently, then vaccuum it, then maybe your NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN key won't stick so bad.

Or maybe it's just a Tobagian accennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt.

Cheers,
Cameron

i will be there for this weekend, 4 days of no work, only rum, music and more RUM

Dave