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05-18-2010, 10:09 PM   #1
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what lens for fisheye fever

i've been thinking alot about a fisheye lens, but not an extreme fisheye. kind of have it narrowed down to sigma 15mm, sigma 10mm, and pentax 10-17mm in that order. any thoughts on these choices?
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I have a Sigma 10 arriving today. I currently have a DA 10-17 that I will probably be selling. Not a thing in the world wrong with that lens, I just feel like I want a dedicated fisheye. Of course, to most people the best thing about the 10-17 is its dual nature. It's only a fisheye at the wide end with the effect gradually lessening as you zoom in, so it also makes a good standard wide angle. In fact, now that I think of it, that kind of makes it a great choice for you as you seem to want to be able to have that kind of control. IMO the Sigma 15 has so little fisheye effect that it shouldn't even be called one. Anyway if you do decide on the 10-17, I have one in perfect condition that I'll probably have available shortly. It'll definitely save you some money over a new one. Just PM me if you're interested.
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Got 700 bucks laying around?

SMC Takumar 17 F4:



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Got 700 bucks laying around?

SMC Takumar 17 F4
$700 sounds a bit high. The last one of these that I saw was LN and went for $425 USD. Beautiful build and decent performance.


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the purple fringing worries me about the 10-17mm but on the other hand i do like the versatility. but, on the other handI really just want the fisheye option not the range...
image quality is important and it sounds like all three have it.
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I really haven't noticed significant fringing on my 10-17. Maybe I'll have to shoot something fringable with it to see if I can get it to fringe. Hmmm.
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I see very minor fringing on my 10-17 FE, and then only rarely, but easily corrected PP. Lens is sharper than I expected and can focus crazy close if necessary. Biggest issue is, of course, flare, and too dark shadows in high contrast scenes, but that's a general FE issue.

Fun and surprisingly useful lens. Excellent for video outdoors at 12mm+. Highly recommend as a zoom FE starting at 10mm is just versatile. As an above commenter noted, at 14-17mm it's close to normal, and some cropping and/or PP work can make it so.

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I really haven't noticed significant fringing on my 10-17. Maybe I'll have to shoot something fringable with it to see if I can get it to fringe. Hmmm.
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Got 700 bucks laying around?

SMC Takumar 17 F4:
This was on a film camera though, right?
180 degrees turns into ~110~120 on a APS-C.

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If you go to the fisheye fever thread, you will see all sorts of examples.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/33549-fisheye-...ye-photos.html

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This was on a film camera though, right?
180 degrees turns into ~110~120 on a APS-C.
No--those were taken on APS-C. Fisheye is much stronger on full-frame film.

I said $700 because it's been moving between $450 and $700 eBay, though I'm sure you can get it for less from time to time.

It's not mine--it's a guy in the Takumar club.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
I see very minor fringing on my 10-17 FE, and then only rarely, but easily corrected PP. Lens is sharper than I expected and can focus crazy close if necessary. Biggest issue is, of course, flare, and too dark shadows in high contrast scenes, but that's a general FE issue.
Exactly how is PF easily corrected in PP? I hear that all the time but have yet to find a solution that works well. Defringing in Lightroom doesn't do it. If I get really annoyed by it, I will usually use a brush in Lightroom to lower saturation which helps hide it.

I have fairly serious PF in my 10-17mm at the edges. I do a lot of fisheye shooting so I would consider an alternative lens if it performed notably better in that department - supposedly not many do.

I haven't used the Sigma 10mm but I met up with someone recently who was renting it for their Sony and I was shocked at how much larger it is than the 10-17mm. Yes, it's F2.8 vs F3.5 - but even so, this is a rare where the prime is much larger than the zoom.
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I have been experimenting with a Sigma 8mm f4 manual focus lens the past week. Its a good thing its easy to focus because object appear so far away its like trying to focus on ants from a 6 ft step ladder.
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I would vote for the Pentax 10-17. In particular, its close focus ability is amazing. Quite sharp throughout, great colors. Amazing. At the 17 mm it is still fishy, but not nearly as much as at 10 mm.
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I have the Sigma 16mm Filtermatic and the 10-17.
It's a no contest, 10-17 all the way!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
I would vote for the Pentax 10-17. In particular, its close focus ability is amazing. Quite sharp throughout, great colors. Amazing. At the 17 mm it is still fishy, but not nearly as much as at 10 mm.
Yeah, to me, this is a must have lens. It's probably the next on my list, but that damn Sigma 10-20 just seems more functional for me.
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