Pentax/Honeywell...Is there any difference?

pickles · 05-27-2010, 11:25 PM

Looking to buy a few lens' & have noticed the Honeywell name popping up.
Are Pentax & Honeywell the same product? Do they have Honeywell instruction manuals with them, or do they use the Pentax item.
If I'm going to buy a lens, I think I'd prefer a pentax domiciled one, but I suppose if the only difference is the lens cap, then I'm being a bit silly.
Cheers, Pickles.

Asahiflex · 05-27-2010, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by pickles

Looking to buy a few lens' & have noticed the Honeywell name popping up.
Are Pentax & Honeywell the same product? Do they have Honeywell instruction manuals with them, or do they use the Pentax item.
If I'm going to buy a lens, I think I'd prefer a pentax domiciled one, but I suppose if the only difference is the lens cap, then I'm being a bit silly.
Cheers, Pickles.

Well, I guess you are talking about the M42 screwmount lenses. Indeed, the only difference is in the lens cap

xjjohnno · 05-28-2010, 02:57 AM

Honeywell was the name Pentax/ Asahi products were sold under in the US if that's any help to you.

Mechan1k · 05-28-2010, 09:22 AM

My Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9 has a Honeywell Pentax lens cap on it ... but that's not reason not the choose it ... would have to be the best lens I have in my M42 kit.

reeftool · 05-28-2010, 09:36 AM

Honeywell was the official importer of Pentax camreas and lenses way back in the day so all of the official USA imports were labeled Honeywell Pentax. Lenses and cameras in the rest of the world were labeled Asahi Pentax. The products are identical.

pickles · 05-28-2010, 04:01 PM

Thank You....So the value/collectability/prestige etc of some of the rarer/better etc Takumar SMC M42 would be exactly the same whether they be Honeywell or Pentax?
Cheers, Pickles.

stevebrot · 05-28-2010, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by reeftool

Honeywell was the official importer of Pentax camreas and lenses way back in the day so all of the official USA imports were labeled Honeywell Pentax. Lenses and cameras in the rest of the world were labeled Asahi Pentax. The products are identical.

Unless, of course, they are labeled Heiland (a Honeywell subsidiary). In addition to the Honeywell name, there are also some differences in model names for the various M42 film bodies. I don't believe that there were any lenses labeled as either Honeywell or Heiland.

It might also be useful to know that Honeywell sold many different photography products that had nothing to do with Pentax (e.g. Strobonar flashes and Nikor darkroom products).

Steve

Laurentiu Cristofor · 05-28-2010, 10:27 PM

Pentax was a brand in those days (as it is now, again). The company owning it was Asahi. Honeywell was a US distributor and they probably had some agreement with Asahi allowing them to associate their name with the Pentax brand. For lenses, the Honeywell/Heiland name should only show on the caps - the front of the lens should indicate Asahi Opt. Co.

stevebrot · 05-29-2010, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor

Pentax was a brand in those days (as it is now, again). The company owning it was Asahi. Honeywell was a US distributor and they probably had some agreement with Asahi allowing them to associate their name with the Pentax brand. For lenses, the Honeywell/Heiland name should only show on the caps - the front of the lens should indicate Asahi Opt. Co.

Ahhh, yes! I forgot about the caps. Cases too!

Steve

05-27-2010, 11:25 PM	#1
pickles Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: melbourne Posts: 937	Pentax/Honeywell...Is there any difference? Looking to buy a few lens' & have noticed the Honeywell name popping up. Are Pentax & Honeywell the same product? Do they have Honeywell instruction manuals with them, or do they use the Pentax item. If I'm going to buy a lens, I think I'd prefer a pentax domiciled one, but I suppose if the only difference is the lens cap, then I'm being a bit silly. Cheers, Pickles.

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05-27-2010, 11:57 PM	#2
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by pickles Looking to buy a few lens' & have noticed the Honeywell name popping up. Are Pentax & Honeywell the same product? Do they have Honeywell instruction manuals with them, or do they use the Pentax item. If I'm going to buy a lens, I think I'd prefer a pentax domiciled one, but I suppose if the only difference is the lens cap, then I'm being a bit silly. Cheers, Pickles. Well, I guess you are talking about the M42 screwmount lenses. Indeed, the only difference is in the lens cap

05-28-2010, 02:57 AM	#3
xjjohnno Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,115	Honeywell was the name Pentax/ Asahi products were sold under in the US if that's any help to you.

05-28-2010, 09:22 AM	#4
Mechan1k Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,891	My Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9 has a Honeywell Pentax lens cap on it ... but that's not reason not the choose it ... would have to be the best lens I have in my M42 kit.

05-28-2010, 09:36 AM	#5
reeftool Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate New York Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,554	Honeywell was the official importer of Pentax camreas and lenses way back in the day so all of the official USA imports were labeled Honeywell Pentax. Lenses and cameras in the rest of the world were labeled Asahi Pentax. The products are identical.

05-28-2010, 04:01 PM	#6
pickles Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: melbourne Posts: 937 Original Poster	Thank You....So the value/collectability/prestige etc of some of the rarer/better etc Takumar SMC M42 would be exactly the same whether they be Honeywell or Pentax? Cheers, Pickles.

05-28-2010, 07:34 PM	#7
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by reeftool Honeywell was the official importer of Pentax camreas and lenses way back in the day so all of the official USA imports were labeled Honeywell Pentax. Lenses and cameras in the rest of the world were labeled Asahi Pentax. The products are identical. Unless, of course, they are labeled Heiland (a Honeywell subsidiary). In addition to the Honeywell name, there are also some differences in model names for the various M42 film bodies. I don't believe that there were any lenses labeled as either Honeywell or Heiland. It might also be useful to know that Honeywell sold many different photography products that had nothing to do with Pentax (e.g. Strobonar flashes and Nikor darkroom products). Steve

05-28-2010, 10:27 PM	#8
Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	Pentax was a brand in those days (as it is now, again). The company owning it was Asahi. Honeywell was a US distributor and they probably had some agreement with Asahi allowing them to associate their name with the Pentax brand. For lenses, the Honeywell/Heiland name should only show on the caps - the front of the lens should indicate Asahi Opt. Co.

05-29-2010, 09:12 AM	#9
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor Pentax was a brand in those days (as it is now, again). The company owning it was Asahi. Honeywell was a US distributor and they probably had some agreement with Asahi allowing them to associate their name with the Pentax brand. For lenses, the Honeywell/Heiland name should only show on the caps - the front of the lens should indicate Asahi Opt. Co. Ahhh, yes! I forgot about the caps. Cases too! Steve