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06-02-2010, 01:28 AM   #46
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It's a good thing that site is in Japan!..and it doesn't list a A* ....
I think this SMCA 85/1.4 at the link below is the A* . List price converts to about $120,000. The used stuff from this store tend to be more expensive than the other link I posted for mapcamera. I have bought 2 used lenses from mapcamera and have had no problems. 77ltd $550 with 1 year makers guarantee and 35-105 zoom $90 in excellent condition. Living so close to this store is not good for LBA!
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"Call me crazy, but keep in mind that I think that 85mm is nearly ideal for landscapes"

I actually prefer longer lenses for landscapes, ultra wide angle lenses make the foreground too dominant....I prefer my images to be proportional.

I also prefer 'longer' focal lengths for landscapes. Can you comment on how you find the depth of field as other posts in this thread indicate the lens is best suited for portraits?

Also, when you have time could you post some landscapes taken with the FA*85?

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QuoteOriginally posted by samski_1 Quote
I also prefer 'longer' focal lengths for landscapes. Can you comment on how you find the depth of field as other posts in this thread indicate the lens is best suited for portraits?

Also, when you have time could you post some landscapes taken with the FA*85?

Cheers,
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Yes, the FA*85 seems to be well suited for subjects falling roughly within the 10ft ~ 4ft focusing range*. Beyond that the FA*85 resolution tapers off a bit**, and it's bokeh seems to be optimized at those distances as well.

* According to my tests on a full frame Pentax LX with Fuji Neopan 100F with the FA* 85mm f/1.4 Vs A*85mm f/1.4 as a comparison and yes, the A* is sharper but the optical aberrations at wider apertures knock it down a peg.

**but not much, to the uncritical eye things look fine the difference isn't huge. It is important to note The FA*85mm f/1.4 isn't exactly the first lens that is optimised for a specific focus range. There are quite a few lenses(Macro lenses for example) out there that perform spectacularly at some focus distances and with the same lens you can experience serious image quality degradation at other focus distances.

two examples of the image quality of the FA*85mm f/1.4:

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QuoteOriginally posted by samski_1 Quote
I also prefer 'longer' focal lengths for landscapes. Can you comment on how you find the depth of field as other posts in this thread indicate the lens is best suited for portraits?

Also, when you have time could you post some landscapes taken with the FA*85?

Cheers,
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Almost all of my 2009 photos were taken with the FA* 85mm, so simply check my website.

All the non-ultrawide photos here are taken with the 85mm: Mosphotos.com Gallery

And ALL photos in this gallery were taken with it:
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Recent landscape image done with the FA77 f/1.8 limited:
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In response to the 15mm thread, and to provide you with some more lens porn, here's my two cents' worth:

IMO the FA* 85mm (or any Pentax 85mm for that matter, the Takumar is great too) is just an amazing lens. Seriously. I've found that I can use it for any task:
  • For landscapes, it's wide enough to be able to capture the essence of a view, while long enough to prevent the photo from being a mere 'documentation'
  • For portraiture, the bokeh is unbeatable
  • For close-ups, it's tack-sharp and very fast, which is a boon (wish it went down to a MFD of 0.5m rather than the 0.85, though- that would be my only complaint).
  • For tele shots, in nearly every case it's long enough to sufficiently capture what you want
So there's my rant as far as the ideal focal length goes.

Moving along...

It's insanely sharp, the bokeh is amazing below F2.8, and it looks pretty. It's not too heavy, and can easily be held on a K-7 with the grip (unlike the FA* 28-70mm zoom, FA* 80-200mm zoom, or DA* 60-250mm zoom). It's fast, and gives you the flexibility you need, when you need it. It's small enough to fit into the same Tamrac strap case as my 20-35mm zoom (without the hood). Finally, the hood means business, but it's still small enough to be reverse-mounted and stored conveniently in your bag. All this means that this lens is my permanent companion! Oh, and did I mention that the AF was lightning-fast?

I've also finalized by travel kit for this summer:
K-7 + Grip + Extra SD card (in case I forget my primary one in my card reader at home)
DA 35mm Limited Macro (primarily for use as a wide-angle. Call me crazy, but keep in mind that I think that 85mm is nearly ideal for landscapes)
FA* 85mm
FA* 200mm F4 Macro (primarily for macro shots, as well as tele's when that extra reach is really needed).

Conclusion:
Get this lens while you can and sell off everything else!

If I were to pick a single lens out of my cabinet right now, this would without a doubt be it (unless, of course, I took the F* 250-600, sold it, and bought 3 85mm's for the money
I fully share your opinion.
FA* 85 is a fantastic level of shots products, is equal to his brother To A* 85.
Two unique lenses.

But the 200 FA* macro, it does not appear a lens challenging to use?
and to use them as tele okay??l

F * 250-600 is a lens from dream
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Recent landscape image done with the FA77 f/1.8 limited:
WOW - that's a great fairy tale picture

the landscape photography it's not about the FL, it's about photographers perspective and avoiding cliches IMO
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WOW - that's a great fairy tale picture

no fairy tale mate, that's what was there. albeit with a white balance tweak.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Asahiflex Quote
I'm not sure why you are thinking that the Taks and the K are 80mm instead of 85mm. Maybe you don't even own them?

Like you, I was also holding off the A* and FA* because of the price. But I then realized that for instance the FA* at f/2 is sharper than the 85mm f/1.8 SMC Tak at f/2. And I really like the DOF control at f/1.4.
I didn't even pick up on my putting down 80 until you pointed it out now...... I typically not crazy about the build of the FAs, but it sure looks like a great lens.

PS....still looking for the M37 85....
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QuoteOriginally posted by smc Quote
. . .

PS....still looking for the M37 85....

Well Asahi never made an 85 in m37 mount, it was 83. However, if you want an 80mm, this is one of the best looking lenses I've ever seen. I've been watching it for years.


Carl Zeiss f. Asahiflex M37 2/8cm Biotar very rare - eBay (item 370389546015 end time Jun-30-10 09:02:19 PDT)
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Well Asahi never made an 85 in m37 mount, it was 83. However, if you want an 80mm, this is one of the best looking lenses I've ever seen. I've been watching it for years.


Carl Zeiss f. Asahiflex M37 2/8cm Biotar very rare - eBay (item 370389546015 end time Jun-30-10 09:02:19 PDT)
My lame attempt at a joke...sorry The last think I need is to learn about another terrific lens in the 80 range....
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One of the main reasons I got back into photography recently is to muck around with portraiture. Seeing this lens was designed for full frame, do the users find it perhaps a little long than ideal?

Anyone have any comparison with how the FA*85mm at FF sides up next to the newer DA*55mm in digital?

I must admit to being quite ignorant on the differences between various optical designs and so far have tended to pick up lenses based on focal length and how good they are percieved to be (no point wasting time buying 'average' in my book)

I have the 77ltd and FA50 1.4 already to cover these rough focal lengths. im dreading the LBA if i begin to feel i need the others instead of the ones i have now, or even dare i say, as well as.
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Maybe eBay item 300432517408 is interesting??? (Not mine)
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Post about FA* 85 gets more hits from people with 77?

I think it's interesting how many people have posted about the FA 77, or the DA* 55 in this thread.

Is the desire for the FA* 85 so strong that everyone who doesn't have one is motivated to talk about the alternatives to stave off a large LBA purchase?
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I think it's interesting how many people have posted about the FA 77, or the DA* 55 in this thread.

Is the desire for the FA* 85 so strong that everyone who doesn't have one is motivated to talk about the alternatives to stave off a large LBA purchase?
The ancestry of the FA 77mm ltd is in the Pentax/Asahi Takumar 85mm lenses and actually all the way back to the Asahi Kogaku Takumar 83mm f1.9.

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