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08-05-2007, 10:37 PM   #1
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Tilt Shift

Why I love Tilt Shift Lenses...

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too bad pentax doesnt have one.... I guess they never did... only a shift one
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Hello Ben

I am looking since quite some time to get a tilt/shift lens for my K10D. What options are there for Pentax cameras?

Pentax made once a shift lens, but is hard to find now. Are there any other option you could recommend?
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QuoteOriginally posted by tcom Quote
Hello Ben

I am looking since quite some time to get a tilt/shift lens for my K10D. What options are there for Pentax cameras?

Pentax made once a shift lens, but is hard to find now. Are there any other option you could recommend?
I really don't know. I haven't inquired. Perhaps I will look in to this question.

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Are there any other option you could recommend?
Hartblei super rotators. I think a few people on here have one of the few that they do. Will probably need an adapter though

HARTBLEI 45mm Super-Rotator Tilt Shift Lens | HARTBLEI
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Hartblei have a range fitted to their excellent SuperRotator mount - 35mm 65mm 80mm and 120mm.

HARTBLEI Shift & Tilt-Shift Lenses | HARTBLEI

They've also fitted new Zeiss lenses to the same mount at a very high price!

Hartblei Set 40/80/120 mm

I have the standard 80mm f2.8.


The lens is based on an early Zeiss design, and is very sharp, it has a bit of flare when shooting into strong back lighting at small apertures. Not a problem under studio conditions. The 65 and 35mm appear to be better in this respect.

All T&S lenses are fully manual, even the Canon ones.
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Looks like a very interesting lens Richard..

have you got any samople shots?
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Can someone explain what a tilt/shift lens is?

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Looks like a very interesting lens Richard..

have you got any samople shots?
I have some very boring product shots of electronic and electrical items, they are not very useful in judging what the lens can do artistically, I use it with the shift and tilt to get the camera way of axis to eliminate any reflections of the camera (and me!) on reflective surfaces, impossible when using a conventional lens, here is an example.



I have some other stuff on file in my archives. I will dig something out that shows before and after shots which are more instructive, plus I have some normal shots taken with it somewhere. I don't use it much for my normal stuff.
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There is a shift adaptor for Pentacon-6(Kiev60) to PK on ebay. So essentially you can shift adapted Kiev60 mount lenses. Probably the most economical choice before the purchase of a hartblei tilt shift which can easily cost you $300-400.
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I have some other stuff on file in my archives. I will dig something out that shows before and after shots which are more instructive, plus I have some normal shots taken with it somewhere. I don't use it much for my normal stuff.
Anything you can dig out will be a great help Richard.

I have touched the tilt and shift briefly a good, good while back, a canon I think.

But yeah the more you can dig out the better, this is the first in production tilt/shift lens line workable on pentax I have seen.... but if it delivers it would be a good addition to the line up for the work I have been doing lately.
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Ok, so I undersand using a tilt/shift to remove the camera reflection from an image, and I understand that they can be used to correct perspective distortion in architectural images (althoug I don't fully understand how it works). Now, can someone explain to me why the tilt/shift was used for the image Ben posted, and why a conventional lens couldn't be used?

Thanks in advance,
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QuoteOriginally posted by silverbullet Quote
Ok, so I undersand using a tilt/shift to remove the camera reflection from an image, and I understand that they can be used to correct perspective distortion in architectural images (althoug I don't fully understand how it works). Now, can someone explain to me why the tilt/shift was used for the image Ben posted, and why a conventional lens couldn't be used?

Thanks in advance,
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If you look at Ben's shot, the model's face area is sharp wheras much of the rest above and below are out of focus. Ben has used the tilt to shift the plane of focus from a flat vertical plane, to an angled plane to get that effect.

You can use T&S lenses to get great depth of field or indeed the reverse, to create out of focus effects, you can also use them to get very accurate stitched panoramic effects.

Take a look at these pages from the Hartblei site, it may help,
Technical Information on Hartblei Lenses (Part 1)
HARTBLEI Shift & Tilt-Shift Lenses - Advices and Examples | HARTBLEI

This is also a useful example test page, scroll down to see an example of perspective control
Hartblei Super-Rotator 35mm f/2.8 MC

There are many articles on T&S and the Scheimpflug effect, Google for it.

Here is the Wikipedia link
Scheimpflug principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Tilt Shift - LBA?

That is really interesting gear, would love to have one.... can see a huge impact on architectural shooting.

Thanks for all for the interesting posts.

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Thanks for the explanation Richard, and the links. Looks like I have some reading ahead.

I had a Scheimpflug effect once after a weekend of partying, but I think that was something different
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