Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
06-14-2010, 02:06 PM   #16
Pentaxian
Lowell Goudge's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 15,400
QuoteOriginally posted by Hali Quote
Cheers for all the advice everyone!

In looking up some of the lenses you guys mentioned on ebay I stumbled upon a K1000 kit someone was selling which had included, and I quote;

'Pentax K1000 Camera with 1.2 50mm lens, made in Japan. Fitted with sky-light filter (1B). Pentax camera case, camera strap, shutter release cable, and lens hood (flexible type). Instruction book supplied.

Wide Angle Lens by Sicor F2.8, 28mm, macro 1.5 made in Japan. UV filter fitted.

Telephoto Lens by Cosina, 80mm - 200mm zoom, manual slide. Sky-light 1A filter fitted.

Miranda Multi Dedicated Flash Gun. 700CD with carrying case, instruction book and colour filter pack.'

Snapped it up for about 80. Well chuffed. Can't wait to have a go on the K1000 as well as use the Sicor for gigs...
look out the F1.2 is probably an F1:2 true F1.2 lenses are written F1:1.2

06-14-2010, 02:55 PM   #17
Ira
Inactive Account




Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 5,216
The only lens that remotely matches what you originally posted about is the 28 Sicor, and that's probably a real piece of garbage.

If the meter works on the 1000 (and they don't very often), the camera is worth that. But the other stuff ain't worth much at all.

Also, is the 50 1:2 a Tak? As said above, it's definitely not a 1:1.2

Last edited by Ira; 06-14-2010 at 03:00 PM.
06-15-2010, 12:29 PM   #18
Pentaxian
Marc Sabatella's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 10,686
QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
one thing I find with lenses 28mm and shorter is that the DOF in the viewfinder is so large that I can't get always precise focus.
True, and the smaller size of your subject in the viewfinder (assuming you shoot from the same distance) as compared to a longer lens doesn't help. I guess I'd say it cuts both ways - the upside is that a small discrepancy in focus is less likely to be noticeable shooting a subject with a 28 than with a 50. Also, again because of the smaller subject size, motion blur is less of an issue, because you just weren't going to be capturing individual eyelashes anyhow. It's a different aesthetic. I routinely shoot my DA15 at 1/15" in concert settings and rarely have objectionable amounts of motion blur, whereas of course with a 50 you'd need incredibly good luck to shoot at that speed.
06-15-2010, 02:20 PM   #19
Senior Member




Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Grimsby UK
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 224
I shoot concert & festivals professionally for magazines & international celebrity photo agencies.

I have reduced all my kit to 3 lenses now.

f50mm 1.4 which rarely gets used but there as a just in case
Tamron 17-50mm 2.8 used constantly in smaller venues
Pentax DA* 50-135mm 2.8 for arenas & large stadium shows.

With a budget of 300 I would have not hesitated & gone for the tamron, superb piece of kit, had mine over 2 years now & many a time I have thought about getting the DA* 17-50mm & just think what is the point, so good is the Tamron.

Here is Ellie Goulding at the very dim Nottingham Rock City which has terrible LED lights



Taken with a Samsung Digital IMA Samsung GX20.
Lens: Tamron AF 17-50mm F2.8 XR Di-II LD
Exposure: 0.01 sec (1/100)
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO Speed: 1600
Focal Length: 38.1 mm
Exposure Bias: +0.3 EV
Flash: Off, Did not fire

06-15-2010, 10:50 PM   #20
Senior Member
Eigengrau's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Colorado
Photos: Albums
Posts: 250
QuoteOriginally posted by cabstar Quote
I shoot concert & festivals professionally for magazines & international celebrity photo agencies.

I have reduced all my kit to 3 lenses now.

f50mm 1.4 which rarely gets used but there as a just in case
Tamron 17-50mm 2.8 used constantly in smaller venues
Pentax DA* 50-135mm 2.8 for arenas & large stadium shows.
The more serious I've gotten about photography, the more I've stopped worrying about having one of every lens. Having a minimal but well-rounded kit seems to be the way to go.
06-16-2010, 12:23 AM   #21
Inactive Account




Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Melbourne
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 3,549
If you are looking for a lens at 20mm focal length, then Sigma is the way to go.

I'd instantly fork out the cash if I had it, as i'm chasing something wider and faster than the DA21.

FORGET f2.8 for gigs.

The Sigma 20mm F1.8 is also well priced. I don't think any other 20mm exists. Well, Canon has a 20/2.8 but the Sigma is rated higher on FM Reviews.
06-16-2010, 09:29 AM   #22
Senior Member




Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Grimsby UK
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 224
"FORGET f2.8 for gigs."

That is one hell of a statement to make!!!

A couple of zooms from 17-200mm 2.8 is very adequate for gigs, I am not sure I would agree with your statement.
06-16-2010, 10:34 AM   #23
Pentaxian
Marc Sabatella's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 10,686
QuoteOriginally posted by fractal Quote
FORGET f2.8 for gigs.
Not sure why you'd say that. I've got thousands of great gig shots at f/2.8, and f/2.8 zooms are by far the most popular choices among professional concert photographers.


Last edited by Marc Sabatella; 06-17-2010 at 01:54 PM.
06-16-2010, 11:38 AM   #24
Aon
Veteran Member




Join Date: Jun 2010
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 369
Dunno much about gig photography myself, but i know that a friend of mine often uses the tammy 17-50/2.8 at small gigs. And i believe he's quite happy with it too.
06-16-2010, 11:16 PM   #25
Inactive Account




Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Melbourne
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 3,549
QuoteOriginally posted by cabstar Quote
A couple of zooms from 17-200mm 2.8 is very adequate for gigs, I am not sure I would agree with your statement.
Fair enough. Personally, I don't like the noise I get from my K200D from ISO 800+, so my little Takumar 55/1.8 usually comes along with me to pubs or live bands.
06-17-2010, 12:57 AM   #26
Ash
Community Manager
Loyal Site Supporter
Ash's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Toowoomba, Queensland
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 22,695
Though with such thin DoF at f/1.4 and f/2, it may be hard to get shots in focus at the right places, or get enough of the subject in focus for the results you're after.

That's why I'd agree that f/2.8 is more than adequate. If lighting is really that bad, a camera that can give you clean ISO 1600 and 3200 images may be what you need.

Having said that, my go to lens for concerts is the Tamron 70-200/2.8. I like being a little distanced from the action and zoom in.
06-17-2010, 05:36 AM   #27
Ira
Inactive Account




Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 5,216
QuoteOriginally posted by Eigengrau Quote
The more serious I've gotten about photography, the more I've stopped worrying about having one of every lens.
Guys, we have a troublemaker here.
06-17-2010, 10:55 AM   #28
Senior Member
Eigengrau's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Colorado
Photos: Albums
Posts: 250
QuoteOriginally posted by Ira Quote
Guys, we have a troublemaker here.


Hate to shake up the LBA group, but after missing a few shots because of lens changes, I'm leaning more and more towards bringing only a few.

Of course, the other option is to carry more and more camera bodies around so I can have 10 lenses at my disposal and no downtime for changing.
06-17-2010, 11:17 AM   #29
Moderator PEG Judges
Loyal Site Supporter
Kerrowdown's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Highlands of Scotland.
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 32,872
QuoteOriginally posted by Marc Sabatella Quote
If you shoot the 50 at f/2.8 or so rather than wide open, you'll have fewer out of focus shots. Also, learn to follow individual performers: focus on them while they;re not doing anything particulrly interesting, when simply wait until they do, adjusting focus slight as they move forward and backward. Bottom line being, don't completely give up on manual focus. I say this because you'll probably find AF equally frustrating in other ways - takes too long to lock, and often chooses to lock on the wrong thing (a stand, cable, or instrument instead of a face, for example).
IMHO Marc offers good sound advice here, I also shoot at many gigs and music venues and work along similar lines to Marc, I prefer to use manual focus with fast glass stopped down a bit, to give me the results I need.

At the end of the day try out various options, lenses, ISO speeds etc at some smaller venues and see what works for you. There is no right or wrong here, only getting great shots and getting paid for them.
06-17-2010, 01:57 PM   #30
Pentaxian
Marc Sabatella's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 10,686
QuoteOriginally posted by fractal Quote
Fair enough. Personally, I don't like the noise I get from my K200D from ISO 800+, so my little Takumar 55/1.8 usually comes along with me to pubs or live bands.
You might try experimenting with different NR options. Right out of the camera JPEg's are not so hot, but most PP programs have very simple ways to batch process an entire gig and get ISO 1600 and even 3200 (push-processed equivalent) looking as good or better than 90% of what's out there in magazines and so forth.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
bit, focus, gig, gigs, k-mount, kit, lens, lenses, moment, pentax lens, slr lens, stage
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Good Lens For Realestate Photography? Christopher M.W.T Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 21 02-04-2010 02:57 PM
My first gig photography for a long time Isaac314 Post Your Photos! 0 12-05-2008 01:34 PM
Hmm...What's a good lens for fashion photography? fashionista Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 4 03-14-2008 07:27 PM
Gig photography - any advice? jleef Photographic Technique 15 11-01-2007 04:46 AM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:16 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top