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12-15-2010, 11:26 AM   #241
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Russ, that is a great shot!

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It is quite odd to me that John Flores started two threads at the same time, one for the 16-50 and the other for the 50-135. The 50-135 is a universally accoladed lens, while the 16-50 tends to receive a lot more criticism, yet the DA *16-50 thread is three times longer. What does this say about the comparative usefulness of these two lenses?
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Well of all my photo's in Italy, 50% was shot with the 16-50mm, 40% with the 50-135mm and 10% with the 55mm. So I find them both very useful. The 16-50mm is very close to the kit lens, so I think that accounts for it's popularity. The criticism is caused by the many bad copies of this lens, but if your copy is good, I can understand why many people would find it more useful than the longer 50-135mm.

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Rondec: It is quite odd to me that John Flores started two threads at the same time, one for the 16-50 and the other for the 50-135. The 50-135 is a universally accoladed lens, while the 16-50 tends to receive a lot more criticism, yet the DA *16-50 thread is three times longer. What does this say about the comparative usefulness of these two lenses?

Focal ranges near 16-50 are more useful, for more shooters.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Rondec Quote
It is quite odd to me that John Flores started two threads at the same time, one for the 16-50 and the other for the 50-135. The 50-135 is a universally accoladed lens, while the 16-50 tends to receive a lot more criticism, yet the DA *16-50 thread is three times longer. What does this say about the comparative usefulness of these two lenses?
I think that the higher volume in the 16-50 thread might be because of the negative stuff that's been around and that people like me who think it's a great lens are trying to counteract the negative stuff. There's no question that the 50-135 is one of the great lenses, and maybe people don't feel compelled as much to show it off.

That said ... I think my 50-135 has a few advantages (apart from the usual):
  • the filter size is smaller, so they don't cost as much,
  • it's bigger, so you get more chicks (size matters),
  • the fact that it doesn't get longer when you zoom is pretty cool (no comment on size here, please),
  • it has more of a 'wow' factor at family gatherings (getting chicks again),
  • OK, it has something that I can't define that makes it a great lens.



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It could also be that the first instinct (or instruction, if taking advice) for the novice photographer is to upgrade the kit lens.

Maybe it's just my personal aesthetic, but a majority of the images in the 50-135 thread are visually appealing (the "oooh" factor), whereas only a couple in this thread approach the same quality.

I wouldn't suggest it's a valid metric for evaluating lens quality (or at least not without 100% crops), and it probably has more to do with being difficult to interestingly frame wider shots.

Anyway, wasn't going to say anything, because I couldn't think of a way to say it that wouldn't sound rude, particularly since I don't post pictures myself (because I *know* I'm a lousy photographer) but since it was brought up, was wondering if I was the only one who felt this way.
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oh my...
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That's a lot of penguins! Beautiful landscape too! Well done!
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Kari, thats simply stunning! Thanks for showing this photo.
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That shot is nothing short of amazing. Wow...
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whats better than a good lens? good available subjects for shooting
as someone said, 90 % of good landscape shooting is just being "there"
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Hard to follow such a great shot, but someone's got to try


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QuoteOriginally posted by ddsg Quote
That shot is nothing short of amazing. Wow...
Thank you. As Banana said, it's simply about being there. To be honest, I wasn't perfectly happy with this photo, probably had to do with the time of day (around 10 AM) that it was taken. The light was too harsh and the colours seemed a bit washed-out and the background a touch hazy. I tried to make it better in PP, but still not totally happy. Unfortunately I could only shoot on 6MP JPEG as I was running out of space fast.
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