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07-05-2010, 05:30 PM   #16
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Look at the samyang (aka. Bower, pro-optic vivitar etc. ). 8pm F3.5

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Do you have a 28mm lens for your Spotmatic? if so, screw it on, and look through the viewfinder. The kit lens at 18mm will be JUST a hair wider than the 28 on your Spottie.

Here is an example of the kit lens at 18mm.

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Do you have a 28mm lens for your Spotmatic? if so, screw it on, and look through the viewfinder. The kit lens at 18mm will be JUST a hair wider than the 28 on your Spottie.

Here is an example of the kit lens at 18mm.

I don't have a 28mm on M42 mount. Thanks for the tip though, I'll check it out!
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Another vote for the Zenitar 16/2.8. Stopped down to f5.6 or so it's decently sharp, and you can easily de-fish if you don't like the fisheye effect. It's more expensive now than it used to be, you may be able to find it for less than $100 used, otherwise I think you're looking at a used DA 18-55, which is a decent lens for the money as well.

Also agree that stitching is a cheap way to get an ultra-wide perspective without buying an ultra-wide lens. Throw a couple of vertical frames together and you can get a real nice field of view.

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I have a Pentax-A 28mm F2.8. I'd love to have something wider, even a fisheye would be fun.
It doesn't have to be AF, and it could be either K-Mount or M42.

I still don't know if I'd fall in love with ultra-wide or not, it would be more of an experiment, so I wouldn't want to spend more than $100. Looking around I only find lenses that are out of my budget.

The lens database is quite limited for little known ultra-wide gems that might be out there. I know there has to be some of you that might own or have tried some surprising ultra-wides that give good results.

Any suggestions? Maybe there aren't any. At least I'll know!

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Fisheyes are a hoot. You may find a Zenitar 16 for a little over $100. They also work very well with video, I have discovered.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Flickeroo Quote
I cannot say that I have "much" experience with film cameras, other than a quick introduction course 25 years ago where I had a Pentax K1000 for a short time.
Similar story for me.

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However, I am in the process of learning about photography by reading books. Many of these were written before the advent of digital, therefore I must base what I see as results a bit differently with a digital camera.
Right; when reading those books (and pretty much *only* when reading those books), it will make sense for you to mentally convert all the focal lengths they mention to APS-C equivalent by dividing everything by 1.5. But when discussing lens with other DSLR users, no need to do any such conversion - it just confused the issue. Just talk about the actual focal lengths you want, not the focal length that might have been similar on a camera few of us use.
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Right; when reading those books (and pretty much *only* when reading those books), it will make sense for you to mentally convert all the focal lengths they mention to APS-C equivalent by dividing everything by 1.5. But when discussing lens with other DSLR users, no need to do any such conversion - it just confused the issue. Just talk about the actual focal lengths you want, not the focal length that might have been similar on a camera few of us use.
Good point, I'll be more careful of that in the future.
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Fisheyes are a hoot. You may find a Zenitar 16 for a little over $100. They also work very well with video, I have discovered.

Is it because of the huge DOF? I remember reading that you can focus some to infinity and just leave them for video in focus. I might be mistaken though. Do I have it correctly?


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What kind of stuff are you going to be shooting? Fisheyes are interesting, but after about three photos, I'm over it...
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Is it because of the huge FOV? I remember reading that you can focus some to infinity and just leave them for video in focus. I might be mistaken though. Do I have it correctly?
I have done that and so has my wife with a WA lens. Since all the photos were going to be scenic the WA lens stayed on infinity. It was new to us plus we were using it on a film camera, a 24 mm. Then we stopped at a scenic overlook and she wanted pictures of the various Forest Service signs that were in place and I found it was a lot of fun to close focus with the lens. I do enjoy WA lenses and I am doing all these things with the 18-55 kit lens or the same 24 mm mentioned above for close focus which is a Tamron SP Adaptall 2 mount with a PKA adapter on it and easy to use even when manually focusing.
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I'm following this thread with casual interest but just wanted to note that urje's wonderful photo is going to make me reconsider my prejudice against fisheyes.
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What kind of stuff are you going to be shooting? Fisheyes are interesting, but after about three photos, I'm over it...

I've been doing a bit of gig photography and food photography lately, and I wish to use it for strange portrait photography, maybe even have a crack at architecture.
I like that I don't have a style or preference yet, I'm exploring.
I know it might be unusual to use ultra-wides for that, but I've seen some really interesting results.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Flickeroo Quote
I've been doing a bit of gig photography and food photography lately, and I wish to use it for strange portrait photography, maybe even have a crack at architecture.
I like that I don't have a style or preference yet, I'm exploring.
I know it might be unusual to use ultra-wides for that, but I've seen some really interesting results.
Sounds good to mix it up, why not try something different. But what I mean is fish-eyes versus normal ultra-wides. The fish-eye look could get a bit much after a while.

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Agreed. Someone could use wide-angle all the time, but i've never seen an exclusive fisheye user.
I think used in moderation they can be a wonderful addition to a photographer's bag.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Flickeroo Quote
I've been doing a bit of gig photography and food photography lately, and I wish to use it for strange portrait photography, maybe even have a crack at architecture.
I like that I don't have a style or preference yet, I'm exploring.
I know it might be unusual to use ultra-wides for that, but I've seen some really interesting results.
I can recommend the M42 mount SMC Takumar 4/17 (Full Frame) Fisheye lens.

Very sharp, immense DOF, good flare resistance, and it makes for interesting architecture or portrait photography.


However, it does -probably- cost more than your $100-00 limit.

Check this link:

Takumar 17mm f4 (1967) lens review - dyxum.com
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