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| 07-15-2010, 05:20 PM | #17 |
 Originally posted by rparmar  Er, you forgot Zeiss? | |
| 07-15-2010, 07:43 PM | #18 |
| 07-15-2010, 08:31 PM | #20 |
| Originally posted by deadwolfbones Lately, Zeiss = Cosina/Voigtlander, so it's kinda covered. :P A common misconception. I can assure you that Zeiss build quality is still considerably better than Voigtlander. I know they're built in the same place, but trust me, they're not built the same way. Not that Voigtlander is bad, quite the opposite, but Zeiss takes it to a whole other level. | |
| 07-15-2010, 09:15 PM | #21 |
| Originally posted by DogLover A common misconception. I can assure you that Zeiss build quality is still considerably better than Voigtlander. I know they're built in the same place, but trust me, they're not built the same way. Not that Voigtlander is bad, quite the opposite, but Zeiss takes it to a whole other level. | |
| 07-16-2010, 08:15 AM | #22 |
| Originally posted by deadwolfbones All I meant is that they're made by the same manufacturer. No sweat, just wanted to clarify. | |
| 07-16-2010, 09:49 AM | #23 |
| Originally posted by deadwolfbones Lately, Zeiss = Cosina/Voigtlander, so it's kinda covered. :P Steve | |
| 07-16-2010, 10:48 AM | #25 |
| Originally posted by mikemike With nothing else to go on other than just brand name, what order would you rank lens manufacturers who make pentax mount lenses? I grabbed this list from the review database and have ordered it alphabetically to start with. Cosina Pentax Quantaray Ricoh Sigma Tamron Tonika  Vivitar Voigtlander Zenitar Schacht Enna ISCO Pentacon Steinheil Schneider/Edixa Piesker Tomioka Soligor (aka Miranda) Sun Asanuma Accura Chinon(K & m42) Komura Yashica Mamiya You didn't say which Pentax mount.  | |
| 07-16-2010, 10:55 AM | #26 |
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I can't play either, all mine are Pentax, my other experience is with both with Canon and Nikon from days gone by, but they don't seem to be listed options.  | |
| 07-16-2010, 11:21 AM | #27 |
| Originally posted by Blue Here's a few more: Schacht Enna ISCO Pentacon Steinheil Schneider/Edixa Piesker Tomioka Soligor (aka Miranda) Sun Asanuma Accura Chinon(K & m42) Komura Yashica Mamiya You didn't say which Pentax mount. And...
Steve (Nagging feeling that I missed one somewhere...) Last edited by stevebrot; 07-16-2010 at 12:18 PM. | |
| 07-16-2010, 11:24 AM | #28 |
| Originally posted by dadipentak "I feel very slighted...my favorite no-name is not on the list. Why no love for Acme?" Yours truly, Wiley Coyote  | |
| 07-16-2010, 02:12 PM | #30 |
| Originally posted by rparmar Yep. What all this points to is that it is important to distinguish the brand from the manufacturer. There are lots of lenses under the Vivitar brand, but some of them made by Kiron and Komine are actually rather good. I am interested in hearing how the Cosina Zeiss are distinctly better than the Cosina Voigtlander. They seem to me to be over-priced and under-featured, especially when we have Limiteds around. Wow, why don't you say something nasty about my Mom? I would almost rather you do that than bad-mouth a lens that I am completely in love with. I won't argue that Zeiss is over-priced. You pay a premium to get the best of pretty much anything. And I guess I've never thought of them as under-featured because you're not buying features, you're buying quality. Think of Zeiss the same way that people thought of Mercedes-Benz back during the 60's and 70's. Not gee-whiz technology, just rock-solid build quality. As far as the difference with Voigtlander, I will only say that at one time that's what I set out to get. After all, they are much cheaper. In my pre-purchase research, however, I came across story after story of Voigts that arrived with elements loose in the barrel, copious amounts of dust in the lens, and just general disappointment in the performance. These were all new lenses. I found no such stories about Zeiss. So I took the plunge. And its been love ever since. I actually already had the DFA100WR when I got the Zeiss and honestly, it could give it a run for its money as far as IQ. Not quite as good, but too close to justify the price difference. Then I went for an afternoon of shooting at a local botanic garden. I took 4 lenses with me, including both of these guys. I made myself use all 4 of the lenses, but the only one I found myself wanting to use was the Zeiss. No other lens feels like such a precise photographic tool. I've had a limited and have used others and they're very nice and feel very well-built. But not like this. The optical properties of the lens are beyond reproach, but honestly, its more about the intangibles, at least for me. I can truly say that I have never enjoyed photography as much as I did that day, and it was blazing hot. Perhaps this mini-review of my particular Zeiss will shed some more light for you: diglloyd: Mini review of Zeiss 100mm f/2 Makro-Planar I fully realize that not everyone will feel that Zeiss is worth the premium. It's just not their thing. But I have discovered that it is my thing. I just wish I could afford more of them. | |
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