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08-03-2010, 09:08 PM   #16
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But where can I get a 24 ltd?
FA* lens is no slouch. All are excellent lenses..

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FA* lens is no slouch. All are excellent lenses..
Where did I say they weren't? The original comment was about the 21, 35 and 77 ltd. The FA* 24/2 is an excellent lens. It is, however, nearly 3x has heavy and 3x longer.
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Or maybe I should give in to LBA and just add the DA21 to my plan of someday getting the DA15 and DA70... and the DA40 too, to make my K-X super compact. There goes all my savings! :-)
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But where can I get a 24 ltd?
Good point. Pentax needs to produce a 24mm f/2 and 28mm f/2 Limited. That's the biggest gap in their line-up, especially as they have never produced a stellar 28mm lens. In the meantime I use either the DA12-24mm or a manual focus Vivitar from this thread.

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I just took some pictures with my kit lens of my couch from 50mm, 40mm, 35mm, 24mm, and 21mm. I agree that as much as I might like the "cuteness" of the 40mm's size, it might not be wide enough for me, and honestly I find it a bit too close to what I get with my FA 50mm. The 35mm is noticeably wider than the 50mm, allowing me to fit the entire couch into the picture (that's where my "group" shot of people sitting on the couch would be). But the 24mm and 21mm allow me to not only get the couch, but the background wall and side walls as well. That's very nice. I guess I should get the FA35 and the DA21. As my kit lens doesn't go to 15mm (obviously), I can't test that focal length, but I seem to recall people on this forum who own both the DA15 and DA21. Or I could get the DA12-24 and take care of the wide end in one lens, albeit a heavier and bigger lens.

Thanks, everyone, for the helpful comments!
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The FA 35mm F/2 is an excellent lens. You will not regret it. The one in the Marketplace is a good price. The Pentax store price is not bad since it comes with warranty.
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Thanks! As I always agonize when I make a major purchase involving hundreds of dollars, it helps that I fully understand and appreciate all the pros/cons of what I'm getting. I just read a thread from a month ago that suggested I get a DA15 before the DA21 to see if I really need the latter. Although I don't have any lenses in the 20's range, but maybe I could pick up a manual focus 24 or 28 at some point, or wait for Pentax to put out a DA in that range-- I might be waiting for a long time for that, though...
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QuoteOriginally posted by seventysixersfan Quote
I just took some pictures with my kit lens of my couch from 50mm, 40mm, 35mm, 24mm, and 21mm. I agree that as much as I might like the "cuteness" of the 40mm's size, it might not be wide enough for me, and honestly I find it a bit too close to what I get with my FA 50mm. The 35mm is noticeably wider than the 50mm, allowing me to fit the entire couch into the picture (that's where my "group" shot of people sitting on the couch would be). But the 24mm and 21mm allow me to not only get the couch, but the background wall and side walls as well. That's very nice. I guess I should get the FA35 and the DA21. As my kit lens doesn't go to 15mm (obviously), I can't test that focal length, but I seem to recall people on this forum who own both the DA15 and DA21. Or I could get the DA12-24 and take care of the wide end in one lens, albeit a heavier and bigger lens.

Thanks, everyone, for the helpful comments!
glad to be of help and see the differences. the DA21 is not a bad idea as well, especially if you really want or need the 35. the DA12-24 is also an option, although I removed it from the line-up since you were looking for something faster and smaller, well not the Sigma 24 is small, but atleast faster by more than 2 stops. though the zoom gives you the flexibility of wide shots selection without sacrificing IQ.

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QuoteOriginally posted by rparmar Quote
Good point. Pentax needs to produce a 24mm f/2 and 28mm f/2 Limited. That's the biggest gap in their line-up, especially as they have never produced a stellar 28mm lens. In the meantime I use either the DA12-24mm or a manual focus Vivitar from this thread.
Are you kidding? Both the K 28mm F3.5 and K 28mm F2 are stellar. The K 30mm F2.8 is stellar as well. It means that you have to focus and expose manually, but how difficult is that when shooting people in a couch ?

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QuoteOriginally posted by rbellavance Quote
sure. But i prefer 21, 35, 77
34-24-34 ftw
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QuoteOriginally posted by Recercare Quote
Are you kidding? Both the K 28mm F3.5 and K 28mm F2 are stellar. The K 30mm F2.8 is stellar as well. It means that you have to focus and expose manually, but how difficult is that when shooting people in a couch ?
Sorry, I should not have said "never produced" but rather modified it with "modern" in order to take into account some or all of auto-focus, auto-exposure, recent coatings and optimisation for digital. Some or all of these are required by most shooters. I must say I am unaware of the K 28mm lenses.

As for manual exposure, I do shoot that way sometimes, but it is a lot more time-consuming, especially as the Green button is not accurate with any lens I have ever used. Yes, if it's just arrangements on a couch, fine. But most people use most lenses for other tasks as well.
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A comment about the size of the DA 12-24. This rather depends on whether one means the travel size or size in use. At 84x88mm and 430g it is actually lighter and about the same size as the bulky Sigma primes (for example the 24mm/1.8 comes in at 485g and 83mm long). Of course the Sigma is faster but also not as consistent in terms of IQ.

Compared to the Limiteds one could pack both the DA 15 and DA 21 in the same amount of space with a bit less weight. But then again the zoom is far more flexible without sacrificing image quality. Having both the 12mm wide end and 24mm street-shooting FOV is flexible enough for me to overcome my zoom-o-phobia.

It's nice to have choices!

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I'm trying to become a prime shooter, which is why I'm leaning against a DA 12-24. the physical size of that zoom is a worry for me, and I don't know that I need such an ultra wide perspective as 12-14mm. My needs are pretty simple right now -- mostly indoor shots of my dog, wife, baby. I don't like using flash. And I don't want the camera to be too heavy/bulky (thus my interest in buying smaller prime lenses made by Pentax), because sometimes my wife will want to use it and if we go traveling, I want to carry as few camera-related things as possible. So I think my plan of eventually having a lineup of DA15, FA35, FA50 (already own this one), and DA70 will have me covered. I'm tempted to add the DA21 to this list if funds permit, but as others have said before, I'll try the DA15 first and see if that's good enough.
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QuoteOriginally posted by seventysixersfan Quote
My needs are pretty simple right now -- mostly indoor shots of my dog, wife, baby. I don't like using flash. And I don't want the camera to be too heavy/bulky (thus my interest in buying smaller prime lenses made by Pentax), because sometimes my wife will want to use it and if we go traveling, I want to carry as few camera-related things as possible.
Definitely grab an FA35/2 while you can. I believe it is pretty much perfect for your needs. You can add a wider lens later.
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Well, I think I just bought the only FA35/2 that the Pentax webstore had in stock. It now shows "out of stock." Wow! Look forward to receiving it and shooting with it.
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