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09-15-2010, 05:27 PM   #1
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Samyang. Is going MF best value for money?

I looked at the specs. I looked at the pics. I looked at the price.

and all i have to do is manual focus.

I am seriously thinking of investing in them especially the 14mm, 85mm and upcoming 35mm.

Any users care to comment on its MF for events such as sports and stage concerts?

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I have the 85 mmF1.4 and the 8 mm fish eye

I am considering also the 14

I am impressed with the quality of the 85 and the fish eye and the 14 is getting great reviews
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MF for stage maybe, sports unlikely. Both depend on the distance of course (and the sport).
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With practice, you can be as effective with MF as with AF. Even for sports. But at the beginning, it will be harder. The trick is to enjoy the experience - if you don't, then don't bother, you'll just get frustrated.

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I have both the Rokinon 85 and 14. Great lens. I use them on the 5D II. I recently used the 14mm on my trip to Vegas. The beginning and end of the clip is the Takumar 55 1.8. There is def distortion for the 14mm when shoot at a brick wall but not too bad when not aiming at one.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Reportage Quote
Any users care to comment on its MF for events such as sports and stage concerts?
Depending on your eyesight you may find MF convenient or unbearable. Given the rather small size of current DSLR viewfinders the wider the lens the more difficult it is to focus accurately. Also, personally, I find it close to impossible to focus in dim light. I simply cannot tell apart sharp focus and total lack of any focus.

Given the specific sport and specific stage performance I could imagine that some of what I said above might apply.

What comes to mind in sports such as racing, e.g. is that you could pre-focus your camera on any object, such as pavement markings and just wait until an interesting car drives in to your frame just spot on to where you pre-focused.

HTH.
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Just use your existing lens in MF. Then you can decide
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I just wrote a few thoughts here.

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so Samyang is looking into AF as well.

this brand is becoming interesting.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lowell Goudge Quote
I have the 85 mmF1.4 and the 8 mm fish eye

I am considering also the 14

I am impressed with the quality of the 85 and the fish eye and the 14 is getting great reviews
is there any particular place you have been finding them?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Reportage Quote
so Samyang is looking into AF as well.

this brand is becoming interesting.
It is interesting already, but I don't think AF will make them more interesting. And they know that.

With Zeiss and Voigtlander out of the picture for Pentax, Samyang is now the only manufacturer of manual focus lenses for K mount - to me that is more interesting. Because AF may mean a lot, but better for manual focusing it is not.

Samyang should focus on improving lens design, coatings, manufacturing quality - it's not worth wasting their resources on AF.
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QuoteOriginally posted by opiet70 Quote
is there any particular place you have been finding them?
B&H carries them under Bower and Vivitar brands. Adorama carries them under ProOptic brand. You can find them on Amazon under Rokinon and other names. They're available everywhere - you can buy new ones on ebay too.
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QuoteOriginally posted by opiet70 Quote
is there any particular place you have been finding them?
Adorama and B&H

The 85 I have is a vivitar, and the 8mm is Pro-Optic
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I'm definitely interested but I want to see the response to the 2.4 first. I'm finding that I often get better focus with the manual, and if I'm having trouble with focus I can always use the beep to confirm.
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QuoteOriginally posted by VaughnA Quote
I'm definitely interested but I want to see the response to the 2.4 first. I'm finding that I often get better focus with the manual, and if I'm having trouble with focus I can always use the beep to confirm.
I have diagonal split images in my *istD and K10D for MF and have no issue at all with focus.

My problem is as follows

With the release of the 35mm F1.4 I am now in a real spot, in terms of what to get.

At present, aside from zooms, the only 35 I have is an SMC Tak F2. I have a hole in my K mount kit at 35, and the new 35F1.4 would fill it nicely.

ALso I have no MF lenses at all below 24 so the 14mm is of interest, as is the 13mm from vivitar (which B&H have confirmed is a different lens, I asked in the forum)

what to do next????

Since samyang is releasing many interesting lenses at focal lengths people seem to want, maybe I can suggest two more for them to look at.

Why not a 135F1.8 and a 200F2.5
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