Originally posted by ladybug Thank you very much for all your comments. Appreciated.
Yes. I am aware of the lack of SR on nikon's bodies but i just thought with the high ISO capabilities of new cameras nowadays, the high iso can compensate somewhat (i know it is not the same) the lack of SR. I have been looking at one of the threads re. the D7000 in the news and rumors forum and must say the D7000 is looking extremely attractive.
That again, i feel that it is not a good idea to switch just because someone else produced a good body in every 2 years or so...as some body in this forum rightly said, it is the lenses that matters. I take that comment to heart.
This is the reason why i am into primes (i m moving from the kit zooms) and i wanted to get a couple of primes which i hope can last me at least another 3-4 camera upgrade cycles before something else happens.
Now back to my question this time. could you please tell me which of the prime lenses i should really be looking into for my setup? i know the answer will vary based on shooting style, personal preference, etc...but i just want to have a feel what kind of lenses i should at least be comparing against the nikon range.
For instance, i know i want:
1. DA15 - the ultimate wide angle and small one too. i have checked nikon's 14mm is a monster and would prolly cost my liver to buy as well. So the DA15 is a no brainer.
2. a 28mm lens. not sure if i should look into DA21 or a DA35/2.4 (the new lens) or the DA35 Ltd. But the DA35 Ltd is looking really good. u guys should stop all those thread like "the DA35 is the greatest lens ever". I think this affect my judgment somewhat
j/k
3. a 50mm. Some suggest a FA43....or should i be looking at the DA40?
4. a portrait lens. ideally i want a 85mm but as someone also said, the FA77 is even nicer and the DA70 is just as good. So what is it? the FA77 or the DA70?
If i had plenty of cash, i will just buy all the pancake lenses from pentax but this is not going to happen. Comments appreciated.
In your original post, you mention the focal lengths 28/50/85, as well as macro. For those interests, my suggestions would be:
28/35: personally I am partial to the F or FA 28/2.8 (used, about $250). If you prefer to purchase new, the new DA 35/2.4 is slightly faster and the 35 is closer to a film-era normal, and it is slightly cheaper. The FA 35/2 (used, Samsung version still in distribution) is more expensive but faster. The Sigma 28/1.8 and 30/1.4 are cheaper than the FA 35/2 or the DA 35/2.8 as well as faster, but also bulkier. The availability of Sigma glass is not a reason to chose Pentax, but it is a resource in building a kit.
50ish: if you do stick with 28 or 30 for the normal prime, then a DA 40 goes nicely with it (and is the most affordable of the Limited primes). The excellent 43 is much more expensive. FA 50/1.4, and F 50/1.7 are cheaper and faster but with less pixie dust. If speed is not the main concern then the D FA 50/2.8 macro (or its FA or F predecessors) is arguably the closest thing to the nikon 60 which you had chosen originally. I do not know how easy it is to find one of the AF 50 macros second-hand. The Sigma 50/2.8 macro available new, at a similar price to the Pentax "fast 50s" (i.e. 1.4, 1.7). The Pentax D FA 55/1.4 met with mixed reviews and is much more expensive than any of these (except the 43).
85ish: everyone recognizes this as a weak spot for Pentax, and the slightly shorter DA 70 and FA 77 are on the expensive side. One alternative is the 90mm Tamron, another would be to seek out the non-WR versions of the D FA 100/2.8 macro (or the similar FA 100/2.8). These are cheaper than the current WR but are still available, including the Samsung-branded version. If you are intending to do without a longer tele, a 100mm lens may give you some valuable reach, especially compared to a 70mm.
So here are some options based on this discussion:
O DA 15/4, DA 35/2.8 macro, FA 50/1.4 and DA 70/2.4, which gives you a lovely compact kit at a price point you are suggesting you might not afford.
O DA 15/4, F or FA 28/2.8, DA 40/2.8 and D FA 100/2.8. This gives good reach and long macro at the expense of a substantial gap between 40 and 100mm (this is actually similar to my own kit). This does not include fast glass, either.
O DA 15/4, DA 35/2.4, FA 50/1.4 and D FA 100/2.8 macro. This costs slightly less than the above while giving faster glass and moving the gap to the wide end. Such a gap could be filled later with a Sigma 24/1.8 if desired.
O DA 15/4, Sigma 28/1.8, FA 50/1.4, Tamron 90/2.8 macro. This less Pentaxian option might be the most reasonably priced, and all lenses are available new. It shamelessly uses third party glass alongside the unique Pentax 15. This could also be a good compromise kit to use while saving for FA 77 and 31 Limiteds.
I hope my dissection of options is of some help for others. We are now wrestling with some great opportunities, but in an era where few Pentax AF lenses are cheap any longer.