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10-05-2010, 07:37 AM - 1 Like   #16
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You might want to consider a 100mm 2.8 macro.

Not as fast, but very sharp. I'm not sure why you want exactly 85mm, but I think the 70mm or 100mm will do nicely for telephoto work.

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well the price at $3xx is nice, i like the OOF effect and f/1.8 at 85mm in a small package.

I am thinking a 24mm f/1.8 + 85mm f/1.8 combo for low light work together with my pentax system which i would say is a daylight setup. About time i got a second body anyway.
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before offering a comment as to what you should / could get.

the canon camera you rented, I assume was an ASP-C sensor, and nto full frame?

Just to be clear.

As others have mentioned, you could get the Samyang 85mmF1.4 (AKA Bower, Pro-Optic, Vivitar, Rokinon, et. al).

You could also pick up any of the manual focus 85mm lenses out there from the SMC-M 85/2, SMC 85/1.8 the whole range of tak's super tak's and SMC taks between F1.8 and 1.9, the Jupitor 9 (85mmF2) etc......

there are lots of lenses to pick from assuming you want a relitively fast 85mm.
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just that i would like the option of AF as well.

have more or less read the pros and cons. Not switching, just getting a second camera system to complement my Pentax gear.

all thats left is to see how the Pentax 35mm f/2.4 performs and its pricetag as well as see if Pentax has more lens releases.

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QuoteOriginally posted by paperbag846 Quote
You might want to consider a 100mm 2.8 macro.

Not as fast, but very sharp. I'm not sure why you want exactly 85mm, but I think the 70mm or 100mm will do nicely for telephoto work.
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If there's a lens you'd use a ton and you can't find the equivalent, you can either get a Canon body and the 85/1.8 or you can waste a lot of time and money trying to replicate that experience on another system!

And you're right, a second body will come in handy too. I don't think I could survive LBA with two systems!
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One of the great things about Pentax is that they offer lenses that no other manufacturer does. Lenses like the DA & FA limiteds. To look to “like for like” replace the lenses in the Canon range with the exact same ones in the Pentax range is not realistic. They simply don’t exist. Nor could you even get close to doing the same moving from Pentax to Canon. Canon have nothing like the Pentax limiteds, or even the 50-135f2.8 which is ideal for a APS-C portrait zoom.

For the budget you mentioned, and with AF as a requirement, I think the DA70 is the best fit. It is a fantastic lens.
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the closest Pentax 85 AF lens that is available is the 85/1.4. you pay extra for that extra speed that you get from a fast 85mm. sadly, it can be costly. having said that, even the Canon 85/1.2 even costs much more than both the Canon/1.8 and Pentax/1.4. about twice the price of the Pentax for a half-speed advantage, and 5-10 times of that of it's slower sibling for a 1 stop advantage.

although the Canon 85/1.8 is quite impressive (resolution wise), so does the DA70, FA77, and FA*85. if you ever ask why those 3 lenses cost more, dont just think that you are buying some expensive lenses with a particular focal length, you are buying a Pentax LTD and Legacy Lens. you are not buying a mere 85 or short telephoto lens, you are buying something special.

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QuoteOriginally posted by paperbag846 Quote
You might want to consider a 100mm 2.8 macro.

Not as fast, but very sharp. I'm not sure why you want exactly 85mm, but I think the 70mm or 100mm will do nicely for telephoto work.
+2 on this one. definitely impressive for short to normal telephoto portraits. I like the FA100 for such use.
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Another vote for the D FA 100 WR.

See this thread for photos taken with it.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/86625-lens-buy...ant-macro.html
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pentaxor Quote
about twice the price of the Pentax for a half-speed advantage, .
You of all people should know how big this is when comparing 1.2 vs. 1.4
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I cant believe no one has mentioned the tamron 90/2.8 macro!
Almost identical FOV to canon 85 when you take into account canon 1.6 crop factor vs pentax 1.5, has great reputation for portraits, is cheaper than pentax lenses and does 1:1 macro. only negative is its slightly slower speed.
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QuoteOriginally posted by yeatzee Quote
You of all people should know how big this is when comparing 1.2 vs. 1.4
don't worry, I know it. I'm just raising a point where you have to spend more for an extra speed or why faster lenses are more expensive than their slower brother.

interesting though that blende8 mentioned that other 3rd party 50/1.2 do not appear to have that much advantage over the 1.4. however, he mentioned that this is as far as 3rd party lenses are concerned.
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QuoteOriginally posted by robjmitchell Quote
I cant believe no one has mentioned the tamron 90/2.8 macro!
Almost identical FOV to canon 85 when you take into account canon 1.6 crop factor vs pentax 1.5, has great reputation for portraits, is cheaper than pentax lenses and does 1:1 macro. only negative is its slightly slower speed.
+1 on this the Tamron 90mm macro is a wonderful, versitile lens. And AF to boot.

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You could always drop by the monthly SG pentax outing next weekend and borrow some of the above lenses to try them first hand. I can let you try a DA 70!
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