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10-26-2010, 02:21 PM   #46
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Could be something as simple as a more efficient screw drive, less teeth on the sprocket, etc. I can't comment on either lens as I have never used them; however, a minor change could theoretically speed up the throw of the lens, giving the impression of faster AF.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Rory Quote
Could be something as simple as a more efficient screw drive, less teeth on the sprocket, etc. I can't comment on either lens as I have never used them; however, a minor change could theoretically speed up the throw of the lens, giving the impression of faster AF.
There isn't enough people with the the new lens yet much less both of them to do time trial.
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Fair enough blue, but considering I am a victim to the cult prices, I'm trying to figure out if it's really worth the price difference.

If they would sell it to me for 300, I would buy it .
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And with the worse bokeh.

NaCl(when the DA 35mm comes readily available look for my FA 35 f/2.0 on the marketplace)H2O
the difference in bokeh is not day and night. slightly better from what I see, but not significantly different enough to make it unique from the FA35's bokeh. we are looking for something like DA35 macro, DA40 bokeh kind of stuff.

you might find it different in your case, which is fine and I'm sure that there will be interested buyers for your FA35 when you get your DA35/2.4.

but logically speaking, for most FA35 owners, it wouldn't make any sense by getting the DA35/2.4 aside from curiosity and slight bokeh difference. the most logical reason perhaps is to those who don't have a copy of the FA35 and would like to save a couple of bucks, then the DA35/2.4 is the best choice.

I'm not trying to downgrade the DA35/2.4, just saying what I'm seeing. the DA35/2.4 does have a different bokeh, BUT not significantly enough to separate it from the FA35/2.


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Fair enough blue, but considering I am a victim to the cult prices, I'm trying to figure out if it's really worth the price difference.

If they would sell it to me for 300, I would buy it .
I certainly won't pay the "cult" prices for it. Id go with this new lens.
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I certainly won't pay the "cult" prices for it. Id go with this new lens.
I agree. I was one of the loudest complainers about the cult prices for the FA 35. I actually ordered an FA 35 last New Year's Day but cancelled the order the next day - I just couldn't justify (price edit) $475 for the lens. To their credit, the Pentax web store cheerfully cooperated.

Afterward I posted several messages on this forum about it and repeatedly asked Pentax to come out with a good, solid, reasonably fast, value-based, normal prime... and they have now done so.

Do I wish it also had an f/2.0 or f/1.8 aperture? Of course. But what I see is pretty good and I have put my money where my mouth is and ordered one. But for anyone who already owns an FA 35 or DA 35 Limited macro, I can't see the new lens being worth it.

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as far as the search for better bokeh is concerned, you should look elsewhere and the likely candidates would be the FA31 and the fast 50's.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pentaxor Quote
as far as the search for better bokeh is concerned, you should look elsewhere and the likely candidates would be the FA31 and the fast 50's.
The DA35 Limited has excellently smooth bokeh in the close focus domain for which it was optimised. Check out how the petals move from sharp to creamy.


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So the question remains - for this sort of focal length, is the major difference between the new DAL 35 and the DA 40 more IQ, or more size and sexyness?

If the money I would spend on the DA 40 is going to be more about the super compact form factor, I'll swallow that and save myself 300+ bucks with the new DAL .
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QuoteOriginally posted by paperbag846 Quote
So the question remains - for this sort of focal length, is the major difference between the new DAL 35 and the DA 40 more IQ, or more size and sexyness?

If the money I would spend on the DA 40 is going to be more about the super compact form factor, I'll swallow that and save myself 300+ bucks with the new DAL .
At the moment, I can order the DA 40/2.8 LTD for $339 shipped from BH or Adorama. It is the smallest production Pentax lens in weight and thickness and has the ltd build. As a Ltd, it also has the Ghostless Coating plus an AL. Its layout formula is 5 elements in 4 groups. It is 15mm long and weighs 90 grams.




This is the layout for the DA 35/2.4 AL and FA 35/2 AL and also have Ghostless Coating.



The DA 35/2.4 AL is 45mm long and weighs 124 grams which oddly, makes it bigger and heavier than the DA 40 tld.


I would expect them to have different characteristics and both fine lenses. Until now the DA 40 ltd was the most economical Pentax Prime lens in production since the price hike of the FA 50mm/1.4.


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QuoteOriginally posted by paperbag846 Quote
So the question remains - for this sort of focal length, is the major difference between the new DAL 35 and the DA 40 more IQ, or more size and sexyness?

If the money I would spend on the DA 40 is going to be more about the super compact form factor, I'll swallow that and save myself 300+ bucks with the new DAL .
for IQ, form factor, sexyness, I'll go for DA40.

for price, focal length preference, I'll go for the DA35/2.4
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I think going into full frame is inevitable. Pentax could extend the use of APS.C for few more years by producing for example K-3 (next year), K-1, and maybe K-7000, K-5000, and K-3000. Let's put 20 MP to be the upper-bound for maximum number of pixels that could be packed in an area of 24x16mm. Increasing the number of pixel would decrease the signal to noise ratio, unless there is a fundamental break through in semiconductor technology. They can also increase the sensor size step by step, instead of jumping directly to full frame, say for instance (APS.D) size: 27x18mm. The DA lenses would not have any problem to cover that area.

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FA35 was a lovely lens because it was just about fast enough, quite sharp, standard FOV and most importantly affordable. It's not a $500 lens and it never was.
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Excellent photos Frank!

Pentax, I'd love to see that lens with the same treatment as the D-FA 100mm WR has!

Quick shift, metal casing and mount, weather seals.... I'd buy it in a second.
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Oh no the retail price for the lens just went up considerably, should have made a pre-order for it or bought when the first stock arrived
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