Have M 28/2.8 - worth buying M 28/3.5?

severalsnakes · 07-04-2014, 07:37 AM

I've never read this thread, so I'm glad it was revived and I was able to soak up the information and experience. It's still relevant information.

Jonathan Mac · 07-04-2014, 12:46 PM

FWIW, I now have neither of these M series lenses. I have the K 28/3.5 (which is superb) and the mark II M 28/2.8, which I have used very rarely on digital but have found it to be superior to the mark I. I've used it more on film, where I don't like it much due to distortion.

timo · 07-07-2014, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Was it really necessary to post to a thread that's been dead for 3 1/2 years?

Er ... Why not? If the post says something sensible and the subject is still of interest, which it is?

**boriscleto** · 07-07-2014, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by timo

Er ... Why not? If the post says something sensible and the subject is still of interest, which it is?

Because it's Thread Necromancy. The OP doesn't even have the lenses that were being discussed anymore. If there is something worth saying about a subject start a new thread and a new discussion.

yusuf · 07-07-2014, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Because it's Thread Necromancy. The OP doesn't even have the lenses that were being discussed anymore. If there is something worth saying about a subject start a new thread and a new discussion.

Thread Necromancy doesn't apply here - it's not a topic which becomes irrelevant over the time or just because OP no longer interested in it. Many people contributed to it and it's more beneficial if the new information is added into the same thread rather than segregated across the threads.

disco_owner · 07-07-2014, 08:36 PM

Im also glad the thread was revived , I found foto guys link very informative and helpful

Enne See · 03-31-2018, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by yusuf

I think it's as relevant as it was three years back and maybe it can save some money for someone.

You definitely helped me. Many thanx!

Jonathan Mac · 04-01-2018, 09:47 AM

Wow, a thread revival after almost four years

I now have no M series 28mm lenses - I didn't like any of them. I have an A series 28mm f/2.8, which is reputed to optically the same as the M 28/2.8 mark II, but I think the A series is much better. It's soft wide open but very sharp at f/4 and has very modern rendering with great colour and contrast. I'd recommend it over any M series 28mm (though I haven't tried the f/2).

**DW58** · 04-01-2018, 01:54 PM

I've recently been thinking about getting a manual 28mm. Quite a few variations to choose from. I'm happy for as much info I can find.

normhead · 04-01-2018, 01:59 PM

I have a DFA 28-105, an amazing lens. Anyone looking for a 28mm lens should give it a look. You get 29-105 mm as bonus.

**monochrome** · 04-01-2018, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by DW58

I've recently been thinking about getting a manual 28mm. Quite a few variations to choose from. I'm happy for as much info I can find.

The Lens Review Database is informative but you’re better to ignore the scores and read the texts (and look at sample images). From my personal experience with 28’s:

K28/2 is sublime, but $800 is a lot of money - OOF highlights are impressive
K28/3.5 wins the Price to IQ contest - very sharp and vibrant
M28/2 is very, very good stopped down a bit - coatings render cooler than K lenses; sharp enough
M28/3.5 is very good and sharp, about as good as M28/2 stopped down
M28/2.8 version 2 is much better than version 1

I don’t have any A 28’s

**jbinpg** · 04-01-2018, 02:10 PM

The fact you can sharpen up any image to taste in post these days leaves little to recommend sharpness as a defining factor. Also, I think I read somewhere here that the M28/2,8 is a superlative lens for IR photography.

**GUB** · 04-01-2018, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

The Lens Review Database is informative but you’re better to ignore the scores and read the texts (and look at sample images). From my personal experience with 28’s:

K28/2 is sublime, but $800 is a lot of money - OOF highlights are impressive
K28/3.5 wins the Price to IQ contest - very sharp and vibrant
M28/2 is very, very good stopped down a bit - coatings render cooler than K lenses; sharp enough
M28/3.5 is very good and sharp, about as good as M28/2 stopped down
M28/2.8 version 2 is much better than version 1

I don’t have any A 28’s

My personal rating-
M28 2.8 mediocre
M28 3.5 great
Tak Bayonet 28 2.8 Brilliant
A28 2.8 just a bit more than brilliant.

**DW58** · 04-01-2018, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

The Lens Review Database is informative but you’re better to ignore the scores and read the texts (and look at sample images). From my personal experience with 28’s:

K28/2 is sublime, but $800 is a lot of money - OOF highlights are impressive
K28/3.5 wins the Price to IQ contest - very sharp and vibrant
M28/2 is very, very good stopped down a bit - coatings render cooler than K lenses; sharp enough
M28/3.5 is very good and sharp, about as good as M28/2 stopped down
M28/2.8 version 2 is much better than version 1

I don’t have any A 28’s

Have lost track on how many times I've been to the lens data base and sample pictures thread. K 28/2 is off the table because of cost. Probably will not pull the trigger on M 28/2.8 version 1. K 3.5 would be my first choice of the others. Followed by A 28/2.8. I'm in no hurry so will wait until I stumble onto a good deal. Thanks for your input.

**monochrome** · 04-01-2018, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by DW58

Have lost track on how many times I've been to the lens data base and sample pictures thread. K 28/2 is off the table because of cost. Probably will not pull the trigger on M 28/2.8 version 1. K 3.5 would be my first choice of the others. Followed by A 28/2.8. I'm in no hurry so will wait until I stumble onto a good deal. Thanks for your input.

AFAIC K28/3.5 is a good choice, but I have a bias (click link in my sig)

04-01-2018, 02:01 PM	#26
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by DW58 I've recently been thinking about getting a manual 28mm. Quite a few variations to choose from. I'm happy for as much info I can find. The Lens Review Database is informative but you’re better to ignore the scores and read the texts (and look at sample images). From my personal experience with 28’s: K28/2 is sublime, but $800 is a lot of money - OOF highlights are impressive K28/3.5 wins the Price to IQ contest - very sharp and vibrant M28/2 is very, very good stopped down a bit - coatings render cooler than K lenses; sharp enough M28/3.5 is very good and sharp, about as good as M28/2 stopped down M28/2.8 version 2 is much better than version 1 I don’t have any A 28’s

04-01-2018, 02:44 PM	#28
GUB Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Wanganui Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,751	Originally posted by monochrome The Lens Review Database is informative but you’re better to ignore the scores and read the texts (and look at sample images). From my personal experience with 28’s: K28/2 is sublime, but $800 is a lot of money - OOF highlights are impressive K28/3.5 wins the Price to IQ contest - very sharp and vibrant M28/2 is very, very good stopped down a bit - coatings render cooler than K lenses; sharp enough M28/3.5 is very good and sharp, about as good as M28/2 stopped down M28/2.8 version 2 is much better than version 1 I don’t have any A 28’s My personal rating- M28 2.8 mediocre M28 3.5 great Tak Bayonet 28 2.8 Brilliant A28 2.8 just a bit more than brilliant.

04-01-2018, 02:45 PM	#29
DW58 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Rural Oregon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,062	Originally posted by monochrome The Lens Review Database is informative but you’re better to ignore the scores and read the texts (and look at sample images). From my personal experience with 28’s: K28/2 is sublime, but $800 is a lot of money - OOF highlights are impressive K28/3.5 wins the Price to IQ contest - very sharp and vibrant M28/2 is very, very good stopped down a bit - coatings render cooler than K lenses; sharp enough M28/3.5 is very good and sharp, about as good as M28/2 stopped down M28/2.8 version 2 is much better than version 1 I don’t have any A 28’s Have lost track on how many times I've been to the lens data base and sample pictures thread. K 28/2 is off the table because of cost. Probably will not pull the trigger on M 28/2.8 version 1. K 3.5 would be my first choice of the others. Followed by A 28/2.8. I'm in no hurry so will wait until I stumble onto a good deal. Thanks for your input.

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07-04-2014, 07:37 AM	#16
severalsnakes Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Kansas City, KS Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,612	I've never read this thread, so I'm glad it was revived and I was able to soak up the information and experience. It's still relevant information.

07-04-2014, 12:46 PM	#17
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,879 Original Poster	FWIW, I now have neither of these M series lenses. I have the K 28/3.5 (which is superb) and the mark II M 28/2.8, which I have used very rarely on digital but have found it to be superior to the mark I. I've used it more on film, where I don't like it much due to distortion.

07-07-2014, 04:37 AM	#18
timo Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: former Arsenal football stadium Photos: Gallery Posts: 431	Originally posted by boriscleto Was it really necessary to post to a thread that's been dead for 3 1/2 years? Er ... Why not? If the post says something sensible and the subject is still of interest, which it is?

07-07-2014, 04:42 AM	#19
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,473	Originally posted by timo Er ... Why not? If the post says something sensible and the subject is still of interest, which it is? Because it's Thread Necromancy. The OP doesn't even have the lenses that were being discussed anymore. If there is something worth saying about a subject start a new thread and a new discussion.

07-07-2014, 08:04 PM	#20
yusuf Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palo Alto, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,497	Originally posted by boriscleto Because it's Thread Necromancy. The OP doesn't even have the lenses that were being discussed anymore. If there is something worth saying about a subject start a new thread and a new discussion. Thread Necromancy doesn't apply here - it's not a topic which becomes irrelevant over the time or just because OP no longer interested in it. Many people contributed to it and it's more beneficial if the new information is added into the same thread rather than segregated across the threads.

07-07-2014, 08:36 PM	#21
disco_owner Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,629	Im also glad the thread was revived , I found foto guys link very informative and helpful

03-31-2018, 01:26 PM	#22
Enne See New Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1	Originally posted by yusuf I think it's as relevant as it was three years back and maybe it can save some money for someone. You definitely helped me. Many thanx!

04-01-2018, 09:47 AM	#23
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,879 Original Poster	Wow, a thread revival after almost four years I now have no M series 28mm lenses - I didn't like any of them. I have an A series 28mm f/2.8, which is reputed to optically the same as the M 28/2.8 mark II, but I think the A series is much better. It's soft wide open but very sharp at f/4 and has very modern rendering with great colour and contrast. I'd recommend it over any M series 28mm (though I haven't tried the f/2).

04-01-2018, 01:54 PM	#24
DW58 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Rural Oregon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,062	I've recently been thinking about getting a manual 28mm. Quite a few variations to choose from. I'm happy for as much info I can find.

04-01-2018, 01:59 PM	#25
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,448	I have a DFA 28-105, an amazing lens. Anyone looking for a 28mm lens should give it a look. You get 29-105 mm as bonus.

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04-01-2018, 02:10 PM	#27
jbinpg Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,546	The fact you can sharpen up any image to taste in post these days leaves little to recommend sharpness as a defining factor. Also, I think I read somewhere here that the M28/2,8 is a superlative lens for IR photography.

04-01-2018, 02:53 PM	#30
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by DW58 Have lost track on how many times I've been to the lens data base and sample pictures thread. K 28/2 is off the table because of cost. Probably will not pull the trigger on M 28/2.8 version 1. K 3.5 would be my first choice of the others. Followed by A 28/2.8. I'm in no hurry so will wait until I stumble onto a good deal. Thanks for your input. AFAIC K28/3.5 is a good choice, but I have a bias (click link in my sig)