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11-16-2010, 08:48 PM   #31
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easy,

the 40mm

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I thought the travel (theft) comments and the two body comments were interesting. For the most part I agree with the types of thieves Deimos describes they are different in South America. Quito was ridiculous because almost everyday someone was getting robbed. Sometimes by force, sometimes showing a knife and once grabbing a camera out of someone's hand while taking a photo. I heard similar about Lima but thankfully the scenic spots are relatively safe.

I would also add that an expensive pair of fancy travel pants (with zippered pockets) are worth it. I bought a $60 pair of pants from REI with zippered rear pockets and a discreet zippered knee pocket. This will slow down pickpockets (and split up your cash). Now if only they were 3 inches longer but that can be fixed by a trip to the tailor.

I'm also thinking about traveling with 2 bodies. But the 2nd would be a film camera with 28mm (or 24mm if I can find a cheap one) as my wide angle (much cheaper than buying a nice wide angle) for when I need it. And then I would have a K-x with a 35mm for the bulk of my shooting and fast 50 handy. And probably a 100-135 telephoto handy. I could also use the film camera if I was going somewhere that had theft problems.
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This thread has actually made me want to buy more lenses instead of decrease the number...

Now I want the 35mm and the 10-20 for sure (the 35mm is about 2x the price of the 40mm btw) plus the 18-135 WR and the 24-70. I know the last two are stupid because I feel like I would just leave the WR at home unless I knew I was shooting on a beach or something. So more the 24-70 than the WR.

I should mention I am looking to buy nearly pro level because at this point I know I'm sticking with this for a while and want to buy the best I can afford, probably even if it means getting fewer lenses. I'm not looking for resale value, I'm looking for what fits my needs and my future needs.

Still open to more opinions though since the midrange isn't totally solved yet.
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The other option is to buy one DA prime lens (or zoom) and get a couple manual focus primes. Optically they are top quality and can be had for $50-100 (tops). I'm actually going to wait until next summer to get a DA lens since I should learn a lot more about photography using the MF lenses.

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QuoteOriginally posted by soppy Quote
the 35mm is about 2x the price of the 40mm btw
The DA35 f/2.8 Limited macro, maybe, but certainly not the new entry-level DA 35mm f/2.4.
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Yes I was referring to the limited, not the 1:2.4.
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I understand your desire to buy pro, but I am worried that you think that spending more money will get you better pictures. Lenses are tools, and for the most part, a pro can make any cslr / lens set up look good. It really has nothing to do with the camera or lens. However a photographer cannot make a lens macro, etc. So a good photographer knows his/her tools. Now you have stated that you don't have tonnes of money to be throwing around on this, so I would think long and hard about the "problems" with the 35mm 2.4, or the tamron 16-50mm 2.8 (likely the best deal in good quality you are going to get, period).

Tamron and Pentax share a lot of lens designs. The tamron 16-50 is, I believe, a near-identical optical design to the DA* 16-50 (minus the lens coatings). You are really paying for weather sealing and SDM...

Just be careful. If you spend too much time around here you will end up spending a whole wack of money you don't really need to, in order to take a good photo.
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QuoteOriginally posted by paperbag846 Quote
Tamron and Pentax share a lot of lens designs. The tamron 16-50 is, I believe, a near-identical optical design to the DA* 16-50 (minus the lens coatings). You are really paying for weather sealing and SDM...

Just be careful. If you spend too much time around here you will end up spending a whole wack of money you don't really need to, in order to take a good photo.
I think you mean Tokina and Pentax, and its the Pentax lenses that have the extra coatings I believe

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I'm not thinking this will make my photos any better, maybe slightly sharper, but I know they are a tool in the same way a wrench is.

If you can't fix something with a cheap wrench, buying a Craftsman won't fix that, same way buying pro glass won't fix bad technique.

I am simply looking to buy some of the better quality so I don't keep buying lenses as much as I would if they were lower quality. Though I probably will compromise on the midrange lens with something like the Tamron, or even the Sigma 17-70 if the IQ is acceptable, and then buy the 24-70 later when I can afford it.

The Ltd. can likely wait as well, though I really want to see what everyone is talking about with regards to build quality and sharpness (plus autofocus on a prime) with these since my only experience with Pentax glass is the kit lens so if I can afford it, this will come before the midrange.

The 10-20 I know I want and I know I want the lowest aperture I can get because I will be using it a lot and I want that extra flexibility. This is the lens that I am most confident about buying.
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Tough one this.
Out of the lenses you list, I would go:
10-20
24-70
40
70-200

For trips, I prefer a bit more versatility than a prime, and I start wide first...personal choice, everyone's different.
Could be worth considering an old manual prime.
They can be found for a good price.
And perhaps a 17-70 Pentax or Sigma.
edit: and yeah, like has been said the new 18-135 could be a good choice.

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QuoteOriginally posted by paperbag846 Quote
Tamron and Pentax share a lot of lens designs. The tamron 16-50 is, I believe, a near-identical optical design to the DA* 16-50 (minus the lens coatings). You are really paying for weather sealing and SDM...
I believe you are confusing Tamron and Tokina. AFAIK, there is no such thing as a Tamron 16-50/2.8. There *is* a Tokina 16-50/2.8, and it indeed shares the optical design of the DA*16-50/2.8 (as do the Pentax & Tokina 10-17FE, 12-24/4, 50-135/2.8, 35/2.8 macro, 100/2.8 macro, and maybe some otheres). But the Tokinas are *not* available in Pentax mount.

FWIW, Tamron makes a 17-50/2.8 that is very well regarded and not too expensive.

Still, your point about pro vs. non-pro lens, and spending money wisely is a good one.
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17-50 tamron 2.8
17-70 Sigma 2.8-4.5

both ~$400 or less

the tamron will kill the sigma in IQ but youll get the extra reach and a bit of macro ability with the 17-70, maybe the pentax 17-70 is also good if not too expensive.

imho not having to change lenses when you are out and about is huge, especially when you are trying to capture a fleeting scene.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Deimos Quote
I think you mean Tokina and Pentax
Sorry, I got mixed up.
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I'd go with the 18-135 or the 17-70 and call it good.
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QuoteOriginally posted by soppy Quote
Ideally a 17-70 would be perfect for what I want, but nobody makes that with constant 1:2.8 which is something I really need, especially considering how overcast London can be as well as the number of museums I am hoping to go to. Is the Pentax 17-70 1:4 any good? I just wish it had a bigger aperture...
The DA 17-70 is my second most used and favorite lens. Love the SDM, which is a plus, but for outdoors general use this is my go to lens. f4 is plenty fast but I don't usually use this indoors.
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