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11-21-2010, 01:30 PM   #61
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Well if macro is not your need then I would go for 21 - 40 - 70 Ltd lenses. A good spread and you could add the 15 later.
This option certainly gives the most consistent 'pancake' profile, and a reasonable aperture progression of 3.2-2.8-2.4 . . .

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If it rains, I'm usually too busy being miserable to take photos
And there aren't that many occasions (though there are some) where I seem to spot any good photos to be had through the water.

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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Well if macro is not your need then I would go for 21 - 40 - 70 Ltd lenses. A good spread and you could add the 15 later.
I do want something wider than the kit lens, so I was thinking about the 16-50 or the 15. Now it seems 12-24 may serve my needs better because it covers a very useful range for landscape.

I heard the 70 is amazing, so I will look at that later.
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Head says 12-24. Heart says 15. Ordered what the heart desires at BH. Thanks for your help.

I will going to hold off prime purchases until I hear more about the performance of the new 18-135.

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QuoteOriginally posted by curiouspeter Quote
Head says 12-24. Heart says 15. Ordered what the heart desires at BH. Thanks for your help.

I will going to hold off prime purchases until I hear more about the performance of the new 18-135.
At least with this forum you can ask a question such as this and get answers that are along the lines of "I prefer ... but whatever suits you best." which beats an awful lot of internet places.

As to changing lenses in the field, I do it frequently. In landscape situations it's [16-50 <> 12-24] and in some other situations it's [16-50 <> M 100 macro] or [16-50 <> 50-135] or [16-50 <> M 400]. I can always clone out the dust spots if I need to. I would much rather use the lens that is best for what I want to do.
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I think the objectionable statement was that "changing primes in the field sucks". Some of us do it all the time. And it is certainly no worse than changing zooms . . .
One often overlooked fact is that you don't change primes as often as zoom users seem to think. You "see" differently with a prime, and learn (well, somewhat forcibly) to "fit the shot to the lens" instead of "changing the lens to fit the shot".

At least, that's what I do.
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One often overlooked fact is that you don't change primes as often as zoom users seem to think. You "see" differently with a prime, and learn (well, somewhat forcibly) to "fit the shot to the lens" instead of "changing the lens to fit the shot".
True, but you also ignore shots that you would have taken if you had a different lens on the camera. Zooming with your feet has limits and constantly changing lenses is impractical, so you will pass on some shots and you won't be equipped for others. Missing a photo opportunity used to bother me a lot, now that I've taken thousands of photos it doesn't bother me as much.
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I heard the 70 is amazing, so I will look at that later.
You heard right!

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Bad news. After using the 15mm for two weeks, I cannot stand the 18-55 WR anymore. The Limited lens is sharp with excellent contrast but the kit lens is now just decent. I should have thought twice before buying the 15mm. It is like opening a can of worms but in a good way.

I heard the new 18-135 is good. Do any of you know if it is comparable to the DA Limited series?
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Plenty of time to think "lens". As I had a K-5 my k-7 went travelling with a son. Well, K-5 is now in stain repair. All I can do is watch my lenses and ponder about how perfect they are and what would make them more perfect. One thing not yet mentioned in this thread: brilliant bags. Now I know I am a woman and sure, I am addicted to bags, but it pays to have special bags for special occasions. Lens changing in cold and windy and rainy conditions is easier in a bag with an emptied interior, I mean, little and roomy compartments, a bag with a stiff flap that I put up like a roof and fasten to my coat with a self invented little easy release rope. (added a litte ring to my coat). Things like this make me feel good and make it possible to use my equipment.
The thing about primes is, for me, they fit my slow pace through life. One afternoon with one prime in a terrain I've walked through a hundred times will still give me new shots. But if I have to keep up with others, well, nothing beats a zoom, provided it is not the 60-250 which is to heavy (tripod/monopod needed). I have no more kit lenses, gave them to my children and daughter in law. I too wonder what the new 18-135 will be like and if I should have it and if I do, if I will be able to keep it. Lots of my equipment end up in the bags of my sons. I don't mind. Life is short, I like to see them happily telling their stories flooded with pentax pictures. Mind you, every lens is different, each has its ways to serve you or to make you serve them. More than to bags I am addicted to lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by curiouspeter Quote

I heard the new 18-135 is good. Do any of you know if it is comparable to the DA Limited series?
I highly, highly doubt it. Comparable to the 55-300 at best I'd expect.
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More than to bags I am addicted to lenses.
I am looking at bags too. LOL.

I want a laptop/camera bag and the choices are now down to Crumpler and Tenba messenger bags. I love (hate) how Crumpler name their bags.

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QuoteOriginally posted by NeverSatisfied Quote
Ref: the DA12-24, to be honest I don't really use the 16-50 much anymore since I got the 12-24. I have frequently used the 12-24 & 50-135 as my travel kit and have never been unhappy with only those two lenses. And although I do like the recently-acquired DA 15, I'd have to say (don't flame me!)...I think I like the colors and saturation from the 12-24 just a little bit better...
NeverSatisfied - I assume, from what you say, that with this kit, you don't find the need for the gap range of 24-50? What do you do if you do find yourself wanting to be in the 24-50 fl range - walk or crop? I've thought of having these two lenses as the travel kit - the images I see are fabulous!

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QuoteOriginally posted by curiouspeter Quote
I heard the new 18-135 is good. Do any of you know if it is comparable to the DA Limited series?
The DA limiteds are their own things - extremely modern and punchy primes. Not reliant on fast apertures, but 100% awesome from wide open. If you like the feel of them, you really need a limited to get it.

If you like the reach consider the 100mm WR macro, which could easily be considered a limited lens if it was not so large.
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NeverSatisfied - I assume, from what you say, that with this kit, you don't find the need for the gap range of 24-50? What do you do if you do find yourself wanting to be in the 24-50 fl range - walk or crop? I've thought of having these two lenses as the travel kit - the images I see are fabulous!

Thanks.

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Hi Glenn,
I have used this kit for trips to Chicago, Niagara Falls, several motorcycle tours and elsewhere. Mostly I need either telephoto, or real wide, but if I need to, I "zoom with my feet" for the middle range. It's not that often though. (However, now that I also own the FA 43, which is what I usually leave on the camera now, I'll probably add that to the travel kit since it doesn't take up much more space and also offers a little more speed.) But the motorcycle trips dictated space as a premium and for that, the 12-24 and 50-135 serve very well.
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