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11-30-2010, 09:13 AM   #1
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Rome trip - lens suggestions

I'm planning a trip to Rome, Italy in April.

I have a 20/3.5, 43, and 77 for primes and 16-45 for a zoom. Currently debating if I should get rid of the 16-45 and go for the 15, and perhaps a WR 18-55 or 18-135 later on, or if I should save my money and be happy with what I have.

Bringing the zoom and the primes seems to be redundant but having the zoom for convenience makes it appealing, and it covers the wide end.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and comments

11-30-2010, 09:29 AM   #2
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there are lots of arguments regarding travel photography, and what is considered the ideal kit.

the arguments usually focus around taking a collection of primes from perhaps 14-15mm through 100mm, against taking a couple of wide angle zooms.

The basis of this argument is on 2 specific issues, what is wide enough? and the practicality of zoom with your feet vs using a zoom.

for the question of what is wide enough, my own opinion is that 16mm is not wide enough. This equates to 24mm on a film camera, and although wider than most standard tourist kits in the film days that had a 28 or 35mm, a 50mm and a 135mm lens, I found that when I lived in europe 24mm was not wide enough on many small streets to have the field of view I wanted. Since the streets have not changed, the same holds true for a 16mm on digital. I have found a sigma 10-20mm an essential part of my travel kit. the pentax 12-24 or 10-17(if you like fisheye) are equally suitable lenses,

As for zooms vs primes, when travelling, unless you are alone and on your own schedule, primes slow you down a little in terms of zooming with your feet and framing the image, as well as changing lenses. Even with 2 bodies, you still don't have all the ranges you may want.

As a result, My own opinion is that a pair of zooms, is the best travel kit, and support this with a few specific primes, one being very fast. I take a sigma 10-20, a tamron 28-75F2.8 and my 85mmF1.4 for a little more length,

I have no issue getting by with just the 2 zooms.
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i shot my rome trip with a 645 medium format widest option a 50mm (i had 50,75,150) and my wife had her oly e300 2 lens kit so nothing wider than a 28 equivalent. more than once i wished i had brought the pentax with my da14. never needed longer than the 150(90mm equiv) on the bronica
pretty much walked around with the 50 attached to the medium format and the 14-45 on the oly and left the rest in the apt
if i was going back i would go with my 14, 28,50,100,135 (which for the most part weighs less than some zoom combos) and zoom with my feet
If I owned the right zooms though I may leave the primes home (ie a 10-20, a 16-50 and a50-135 I don't though. as a matter of fact the 10-20 and my 24-70 would really suffice for 95% of travel
wider than 14 i don't think would be needed (most really closed in areas there is limited or no photography think sistine chapel) the forum benefits from the wide and the tele
funniest thing i heard the entiire time i was there on the walk through the vatican museum to the sistine chapel (stuck in the midst of a couple of big tour groups and it's a bit of a trek) I overheard one women say to her friend as we closed in on the entry lineup
"that ceiling better be worth it!" I choked back the laughter and yes it was more than worth it (wish i could have taken some pictures the book sufficed)
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I would take a 12-24, and whatever else you want. The 43 and 77 would be good.

The 12-24 is high IQ and will give you the wide-angle flexibility you will want while traveling.

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I agree with the others. Take your zoom lenses. If you're on a tour with a group or moving around with family, changing lenses and recomposing shots is a pain. Not to mention having
to lug that stuff around. Believe me, cameras and bags get very heavy after a long day of walking! The only place I can think of for a prime would be indoors like in a museum that allows
photography. A fast 50 or something similar would be very useful, as flash isn't usually allowed. Travel light! Less to carry and worry about and tinker around with and slow you and your travelmates down.
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QuoteOriginally posted by teetoeb Quote
I'm planning a trip to Rome, Italy in April.

I have a 20/3.5, 43, and 77 for primes and 16-45 for a zoom. Currently debating if I should get rid of the 16-45 and go for the 15, and perhaps a WR 18-55 or 18-135 later on, or if I should save my money and be happy with what I have.

Bringing the zoom and the primes seems to be redundant but having the zoom for convenience makes it appealing, and it covers the wide end.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions and comments
Wide is good in Rome.
In April you can expect a good deal of rain.
Interiors of churches need wide and fast lenses or wide and a tripod (which IMHO is not something you want to walk around with)

Your 16-45mm is a good start, add the 12-24, or a (third party) 10-20mm wide zoom.
The DA* 16-50mm is weather sealed and reasonable fast.

Cheers, Bert





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don't forget a tripod ( i usually do one night of night shots)








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As an alternative, take me, and I will solve your lens problems!

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As an alternative, take me, and I will solve your lens problems!
lmao me too
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