Pentax take a tip from Toyota!

eddie1960 · 12-15-2010, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by Daniel_r

I saw the thread title and assumed they were with the K5 sensor issues

Nice one

yeatzee · 12-15-2010, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by bdery

Young people will not buy ludicrously expensive telephoto lenses. They will buy a cool camera to impress their friends. Sad, but true.

I take offense to that....

(obviously pentax is not a cool camera to impress your friends with..... at least all of mine think its some cheaper brand for people who can't afford canikon - partly true hahahahah)

eddie1960 · 12-15-2010, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by yeatzee

I take offense to that....

(obviously pentax is not a cool camera to impress your friends with..... at least all of mine think its some cheaper brand for people who can't afford canikon - partly true hahahahah)

exactly, my pentax cameras usually are met with sneers of derision from the young kids standin beside me shooting at shows (i love it when some twit with a digital rebel, grip and kit lens without OS sneers at my k10d with da14 or the sigma 24-70. their main advantage is ISO, recently killed by the k5. even funnier is when i take a film body to a show and shoot with manual lenses (the funniest was when shooting with my bronica 645 at a show a canon kid asked me how many megapixels it is, I told him what ever i choose to scan it at but 44 megapixel is easily achieved with the right scanner more if you have the best scans of course. his eyes bugged and asked me how much it had cost me, i said under a grand with the scanner lol)

stanic · 12-15-2010, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by eddie1960

even funnier is when i take a film body to a show and shoot with manual lenses (the funniest was when shooting with my bronica 645 at a show a canon kid asked me how many megapixels it is, I told him what ever i choose to scan it at but 44 megapixel is easily achieved with the right scanner more if you have the best scans of course. his eyes bugged and asked me how much it had cost me, i said under a grand with the scanner lol)

haha cool
you kind of showing them the other way, which is good

eddie1960 · 12-15-2010, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by stanic

haha cool
you kind of showing them the other way, which is good

the real reason i want a robot Kr is the reaction it will garner from the canikon crowd

stanic · 12-15-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by eddie1960

the real reason i want a robot Kr is the reaction it will garner from the canikon crowd

for this one I would go to Japan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/4978697636/in/photostream/

eddie1960 · 12-15-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by stanic

for this one I would go to Japan

A Pentax K-r for the New Orleans Saints? | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

if it was a leica that would be real gold and it would be $30000

Jasvox · 12-15-2010, 11:36 AM

I think if Pentax created a new lens named the FT-86G Sports Concept, that would be brilliant. I would definitely want to own one!

Jason

r0ckstarr · 12-15-2010, 02:50 PM

If Pentax made cameras like Toyota makes cars, the metal frame inside the camera would rust out within a year or two.

Then once you start using the camera, it would not stop taking pictures.

Pentax would ignore the complaints from the users.

Someone will go public about their camera and how it never stopped firing pictures.

Pentax will blame it on user error.

Someone will get hurt because their camera wouldnt stop shooting pictures and they accidentally dropped it on their foot in a panic because it just wouldnt stop. The family sues Pentax.

Pentax will do a recall on all models with the problem and say that it was a poorly designed rubber hand grip.

The problem will still exist and go mainstream across all news stations. A huge deal will be made about it.

Some people will even fake the problem just to try to back out of their purchase so they can change systems.

Finally, Pentax will acknoledge the problem and do another recall to fix the shutter mechanism, which was built by another company to their specs.

Pentax will branch out and make a subdivision called Pion. These cameras will be uglier than the current brand of Pentax, have less performance, get more pictures per battery charge, and have a better quality control than some of their higher end models.

Arpe · 12-15-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by r0ckstarr

If Pentax made cameras like Toyota makes cars...

And yet my mechanic tells me never to sell my 16 year old Toyota.

I hope Pentax sends Christmas cards to Sigma, Tokina and Tamron to thank them for help keeping them in business another year. If they didn't make Pentax mount lenses Pentax would struggle more than they currently do.

yeatzee · 12-15-2010, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

exactly, my pentax cameras usually are met with sneers of derision from the young kids standin beside me shooting at shows (i love it when some twit with a digital rebel, grip and kit lens without OS sneers at my k10d with da14 or the sigma 24-70. their main advantage is ISO, recently killed by the k5. even funnier is when i take a film body to a show and shoot with manual lenses (the funniest was when shooting with my bronica 645 at a show a canon kid asked me how many megapixels it is, I told him what ever i choose to scan it at but 44 megapixel is easily achieved with the right scanner more if you have the best scans of course. his eyes bugged and asked me how much it had cost me, i said under a grand with the scanner lol)

Not quite to the same extreme, but I being an average 16 year old walking around with a Pentax DSLR + something like the K 50mm F/1.2 + massive hood equal a lot of attention/2nd looks from the canikons.

Common questions include:

How many MP? (I hate this one the most of all)
Is it/Why is it all metal (the lens)? (very sad one indeed)
Is it fast at auto focusing? (*sigh*)
No electronics in the lens? WHHAAAAAATTT???????
why don't you use canon like everybody else? (I love to answer this one

)

etc. etc.

deadwolfbones · 12-15-2010, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Arpe

And yet my mechanic tells me never to sell my 16 year old Toyota.

I hope Pentax sends Christmas cards to Sigma, Tokina and Tamron to thank them for help keeping them in business another year. If they didn't make Pentax mount lenses Pentax would struggle more than they currently do.

Yeah, not sure what r0ckstarr's on about. My '95 Celica is at 190,000 miles and still going strong. Runs like new, really.

r0ckstarr · 12-15-2010, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

Yeah, not sure what r0ckstarr's on about. My '95 Celica is at 190,000 miles and still going strong. Runs like new, really.

My Ford is nearing 300k miles. I have been my own mechanic since it has had thirty four miles on it. I know the older Toyota's were quality cars. The 22R motors are what gave them a name in quality. Those things would run until the body rotted off and then keep on running.

I was just trying to crack a joke at Toyota's recent mishaps with their new cars. Surely you've all heard about the cars that wouldn't stop accelerating and Toyota tried to blame it on a rubber floor mat after ignoring and denying the customer complaints?? Or the recent trucks that had the frames rust out within the first few years?

deadwolfbones · 12-15-2010, 08:50 PM

I heard of a few isolated incidents that were made into a typical media circus. Hadn't heard about the frame problems, though. Despite the recalls and whatnot I'd still consider Toyota one of the most reputable brands out there.

bdery · 12-16-2010, 06:45 AM

Quote:

I take offense to that....

(obviously pentax is not a cool camera to impress your friends with..... at least all of mine think its some cheaper brand for people who can't afford canikon - partly true hahahahah)

I consider myself young too

Just not as young as I used to be (and me only 30...)

The younger crowd, as a market, is interested in being connected, being different (duh) and having jack of all trades tools. They are not, again as a market, interested in feature, tweaks, specs.

Does anyone know the processor speed difference between an iPhone and a Nexus one? Does anyone care? Nope. Just as they don't realize that a plastic non-focus lens does not match a prime DSLR lens. Or maybe they do realize it, but they don't care.

12-15-2010, 10:53 AM	#21
stanic Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zakopane Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 389	Originally posted by eddie1960 the real reason i want a robot Kr is the reaction it will garner from the canikon crowd for this one I would go to Japan http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/4978697636/in/photostream/ Last edited by stanic; 12-15-2010 at 10:54 AM. Reason: forgot the link

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12-15-2010, 08:12 AM	#16
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by Daniel_r I saw the thread title and assumed they were with the K5 sensor issues Nice one

12-15-2010, 08:43 AM	#17
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by bdery Young people will not buy ludicrously expensive telephoto lenses. They will buy a cool camera to impress their friends. Sad, but true. I take offense to that.... (obviously pentax is not a cool camera to impress your friends with..... at least all of mine think its some cheaper brand for people who can't afford canikon - partly true hahahahah)

12-15-2010, 08:53 AM	#18
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by yeatzee I take offense to that.... (obviously pentax is not a cool camera to impress your friends with..... at least all of mine think its some cheaper brand for people who can't afford canikon - partly true hahahahah) exactly, my pentax cameras usually are met with sneers of derision from the young kids standin beside me shooting at shows (i love it when some twit with a digital rebel, grip and kit lens without OS sneers at my k10d with da14 or the sigma 24-70. their main advantage is ISO, recently killed by the k5. even funnier is when i take a film body to a show and shoot with manual lenses (the funniest was when shooting with my bronica 645 at a show a canon kid asked me how many megapixels it is, I told him what ever i choose to scan it at but 44 megapixel is easily achieved with the right scanner more if you have the best scans of course. his eyes bugged and asked me how much it had cost me, i said under a grand with the scanner lol)

12-15-2010, 10:16 AM	#19
stanic Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Zakopane Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 389	Originally posted by eddie1960 even funnier is when i take a film body to a show and shoot with manual lenses (the funniest was when shooting with my bronica 645 at a show a canon kid asked me how many megapixels it is, I told him what ever i choose to scan it at but 44 megapixel is easily achieved with the right scanner more if you have the best scans of course. his eyes bugged and asked me how much it had cost me, i said under a grand with the scanner lol) haha cool you kind of showing them the other way, which is good

12-15-2010, 10:24 AM	#20
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by stanic haha cool you kind of showing them the other way, which is good the real reason i want a robot Kr is the reaction it will garner from the canikon crowd

12-15-2010, 10:58 AM	#22
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by stanic for this one I would go to Japan A Pentax K-r for the New Orleans Saints? \| Flickr - Photo Sharing! if it was a leica that would be real gold and it would be $30000

12-15-2010, 11:36 AM	#23
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	I think if Pentax created a new lens named the FT-86G Sports Concept, that would be brilliant. I would definitely want to own one! Jason

12-15-2010, 02:50 PM	#24
r0ckstarr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,507	If Pentax made cameras like Toyota makes cars, the metal frame inside the camera would rust out within a year or two. Then once you start using the camera, it would not stop taking pictures. Pentax would ignore the complaints from the users. Someone will go public about their camera and how it never stopped firing pictures. Pentax will blame it on user error. Someone will get hurt because their camera wouldnt stop shooting pictures and they accidentally dropped it on their foot in a panic because it just wouldnt stop. The family sues Pentax. Pentax will do a recall on all models with the problem and say that it was a poorly designed rubber hand grip. The problem will still exist and go mainstream across all news stations. A huge deal will be made about it. Some people will even fake the problem just to try to back out of their purchase so they can change systems. Finally, Pentax will acknoledge the problem and do another recall to fix the shutter mechanism, which was built by another company to their specs. Pentax will branch out and make a subdivision called Pion. These cameras will be uglier than the current brand of Pentax, have less performance, get more pictures per battery charge, and have a better quality control than some of their higher end models.

12-15-2010, 02:57 PM	#25
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	Originally posted by r0ckstarr If Pentax made cameras like Toyota makes cars... And yet my mechanic tells me never to sell my 16 year old Toyota. I hope Pentax sends Christmas cards to Sigma, Tokina and Tamron to thank them for help keeping them in business another year. If they didn't make Pentax mount lenses Pentax would struggle more than they currently do.

12-15-2010, 03:49 PM	#26
yeatzee Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Temecula Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,675	Originally posted by eddie1960 exactly, my pentax cameras usually are met with sneers of derision from the young kids standin beside me shooting at shows (i love it when some twit with a digital rebel, grip and kit lens without OS sneers at my k10d with da14 or the sigma 24-70. their main advantage is ISO, recently killed by the k5. even funnier is when i take a film body to a show and shoot with manual lenses (the funniest was when shooting with my bronica 645 at a show a canon kid asked me how many megapixels it is, I told him what ever i choose to scan it at but 44 megapixel is easily achieved with the right scanner more if you have the best scans of course. his eyes bugged and asked me how much it had cost me, i said under a grand with the scanner lol) Not quite to the same extreme, but I being an average 16 year old walking around with a Pentax DSLR + something like the K 50mm F/1.2 + massive hood equal a lot of attention/2nd looks from the canikons. Common questions include: How many MP? (I hate this one the most of all) Is it/Why is it all metal (the lens)? (very sad one indeed) Is it fast at auto focusing? (sigh) No electronics in the lens? WHHAAAAAATTT??????? why don't you use canon like everybody else? (I love to answer this one ) etc. etc.

12-15-2010, 05:32 PM	#27
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by Arpe And yet my mechanic tells me never to sell my 16 year old Toyota. I hope Pentax sends Christmas cards to Sigma, Tokina and Tamron to thank them for help keeping them in business another year. If they didn't make Pentax mount lenses Pentax would struggle more than they currently do. Yeah, not sure what r0ckstarr's on about. My '95 Celica is at 190,000 miles and still going strong. Runs like new, really.

12-15-2010, 07:41 PM	#28
r0ckstarr Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,507	Originally posted by deadwolfbones Yeah, not sure what r0ckstarr's on about. My '95 Celica is at 190,000 miles and still going strong. Runs like new, really. My Ford is nearing 300k miles. I have been my own mechanic since it has had thirty four miles on it. I know the older Toyota's were quality cars. The 22R motors are what gave them a name in quality. Those things would run until the body rotted off and then keep on running. I was just trying to crack a joke at Toyota's recent mishaps with their new cars. Surely you've all heard about the cars that wouldn't stop accelerating and Toyota tried to blame it on a rubber floor mat after ignoring and denying the customer complaints?? Or the recent trucks that had the frames rust out within the first few years?

12-15-2010, 08:50 PM	#29
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	I heard of a few isolated incidents that were made into a typical media circus. Hadn't heard about the frame problems, though. Despite the recalls and whatnot I'd still consider Toyota one of the most reputable brands out there.

12-16-2010, 06:45 AM	#30
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Quote: I take offense to that.... (obviously pentax is not a cool camera to impress your friends with..... at least all of mine think its some cheaper brand for people who can't afford canikon - partly true hahahahah) I consider myself young too Just not as young as I used to be (and me only 30...) The younger crowd, as a market, is interested in being connected, being different (duh) and having jack of all trades tools. They are not, again as a market, interested in feature, tweaks, specs. Does anyone know the processor speed difference between an iPhone and a Nexus one? Does anyone care? Nope. Just as they don't realize that a plastic non-focus lens does not match a prime DSLR lens. Or maybe they do realize it, but they don't care.