45mm FILM

PGillin · 12-23-2010, 10:34 PM

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Hello,
I'm looking for a good 45mm lens that will work on film. I shoot on a KX and Spottie, so M42 or K is fine. K is SLIGHTLY preferred. I've used some absolutely superb 55mm lenses, but I really love the 45mm lenses of older, fixed, rangefinders. Something with that angle of view on my SLR would be absolutely amazing. Any recommendations?

*Edit*
My KX is the older, film KX. The k1000 with DOF preview and timer.

Last edited by PGillin; 12-24-2010 at 11:46 AM. Reason: FILM KX

sewebster · 12-23-2010, 10:47 PM

43 mm isn't close enough?

RioRico · 12-24-2010, 09:28 AM

The only 45mm I've managed to acquire is a Chinon Auto 45/2.8 in KM mount. Neat! Sharp! And just US$14 shipped.

Next closest is a Meyer Helioplan 40/4.5 in Exakta mount (US$13), easily adapted to PK -- glue a M39-M42 ring around the Exakta bayonet, grind ~0.6mm from the flange of a cheap Bower-type M42-PK adapter (I used 100-grit sandpaper), screw together and shoot.

A dedicated lens-hacker might pull the Yashinon 45/1.7 lens from a Yashica Electro 35 GSN and mount it on an M42 helicoid or a trashed lens body. But I don't want to kill my Yashica. Maybe if I get some junker rangefinder...

This MINOLTA MD ROKKOR-X 45MM 1:2 is currently at US$1 with 0 bids and US$7 shipping. This *might* be adaptable to PK by removing its base aand replacing it with a wide-flanged M42-PK adapter, or the body might need a little grinding to reach infinity focus.

A bit kinkier: this Isco Optic PC-ULTRA-AV 45/2.8 projector lens might be adaptable by sticking it into a cheap PK macro tube set. I've done similar with a Schneider 60mm PC projector lens. No iris, so shoot wide-open, or cut Waterhouse stops from construction paper.

The Pentax FA43 Ltd is in the US$600+ range. Ouch. And it's overkill for a K1000.

**nater** · 12-24-2010, 09:35 AM

There's the old Chinon 45mm f/2.8 which you can find used. There are some reviews here on the forum.

PGillin · 12-24-2010, 10:13 AM

43mm is close enough, but it would also cost more than all my equipment combined. It's a little bit outside my budget at this point. I was kind of hoping for something a little bit less expensive.

Ira · 12-24-2010, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by PGillin

Hello,
I'm looking for a good 45mm lens that will work on film. I shoot on a KX and Spottie, so M42 or K is fine. K is SLIGHTLY preferred. I've used some absolutely superb 55mm lenses, but I really love the 45mm lenses of older, fixed, rangefinders. Something with that angle of view on my SLR would be absolutely amazing. Any recommendations?

Your Spottie is K mount?

PGillin · 12-24-2010, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Ira

Your Spottie is K mount?

No, however my KX is K mount.

**hyyz** · 12-24-2010, 10:54 AM

If zoom is in your consideration, I would recommend Pentax SMC 45-125mm F4. IQ is on par with 75-150mm, which is excellent. I believe you can find one under $100.

Ira · 12-24-2010, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by PGillin

No, however my KX is K mount.

So how do you expect to use a K lens on the Spottie?

You can't.

paperbag846 · 12-24-2010, 11:31 AM

I think he prefers his KX to his spotty.

Ira · 12-24-2010, 11:36 AM

He says he wants a 45 that will work with film.

Look at the title of his thread.

PGillin · 12-24-2010, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Ira

So how do you expect to use a K lens on the Spottie?

You can't.

Yes, I understand. But, I shoot both cameras regularly, so I can easily use a lens in either mount. Naturally an M42 lens would go on the Spotmatic and K mount lens would go on the KX, but I would be able to use either type. The reason I'm leaning slightly towards K is because the KX is new, and I only have one K lens. I'm genuinely not trying to be argumentative about this, I have a superb K camera and a superb M42 camera, so I'm open to a lens in either mount. I see what you're saying, but I don't understand what you're getting at, besides that K mount lenses don't fit M42 cameras.

Ira · 12-24-2010, 11:52 AM

Nothing to do with being argumentative, but if you reread your original post, you specifically asked about a 45mm for your film/your Spottie, in either K or M42.

Based on that reading, it looks like you thought a K would work on the Spottie.

paperbag846 · 12-24-2010, 11:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Ira

He says he wants a 45 that will work with film.

Look at the title of his thread.

Sorry, I assumed he was talking about the film K-X SLR.

Pentax KX Film SLR Camera Brochure

PGillin · 12-24-2010, 12:02 PM

I should've specified that I meant the film KX from the start, sorry. Anyways, fixed that in the OP. I can see where KX caused some confusion. Sorry about that, then.

12-23-2010, 10:34 PM	#1
PGillin Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southern Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 343	45mm FILM Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. Hello, I'm looking for a good 45mm lens that will work on film. I shoot on a KX and Spottie, so M42 or K is fine. K is SLIGHTLY preferred. I've used some absolutely superb 55mm lenses, but I really love the 45mm lenses of older, fixed, rangefinders. Something with that angle of view on my SLR would be absolutely amazing. Any recommendations? Edit My KX is the older, film KX. The k1000 with DOF preview and timer. Last edited by PGillin; 12-24-2010 at 11:46 AM. Reason: FILM KX

12-24-2010, 10:54 AM	#8
hyyz Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 478	SMC 45-125mm F4 If zoom is in your consideration, I would recommend Pentax SMC 45-125mm F4. IQ is on par with 75-150mm, which is excellent. I believe you can find one under $100.

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12-23-2010, 10:47 PM	#2
sewebster Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 544	43 mm isn't close enough?

12-24-2010, 09:28 AM	#3
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	The only 45mm I've managed to acquire is a Chinon Auto 45/2.8 in KM mount. Neat! Sharp! And just US$14 shipped. Next closest is a Meyer Helioplan 40/4.5 in Exakta mount (US$13), easily adapted to PK -- glue a M39-M42 ring around the Exakta bayonet, grind ~0.6mm from the flange of a cheap Bower-type M42-PK adapter (I used 100-grit sandpaper), screw together and shoot. A dedicated lens-hacker might pull the Yashinon 45/1.7 lens from a Yashica Electro 35 GSN and mount it on an M42 helicoid or a trashed lens body. But I don't want to kill my Yashica. Maybe if I get some junker rangefinder... This MINOLTA MD ROKKOR-X 45MM 1:2 is currently at US$1 with 0 bids and US$7 shipping. This might be adaptable to PK by removing its base aand replacing it with a wide-flanged M42-PK adapter, or the body might need a little grinding to reach infinity focus. A bit kinkier: this Isco Optic PC-ULTRA-AV 45/2.8 projector lens might be adaptable by sticking it into a cheap PK macro tube set. I've done similar with a Schneider 60mm PC projector lens. No iris, so shoot wide-open, or cut Waterhouse stops from construction paper. The Pentax FA43 Ltd is in the US$600+ range. Ouch. And it's overkill for a K1000.

12-24-2010, 09:35 AM	#4
nater Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Photos: Albums Posts: 706	There's the old Chinon 45mm f/2.8 which you can find used. There are some reviews here on the forum.

12-24-2010, 10:13 AM	#5
PGillin Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southern Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 343 Original Poster	43mm is close enough, but it would also cost more than all my equipment combined. It's a little bit outside my budget at this point. I was kind of hoping for something a little bit less expensive.

12-24-2010, 10:14 AM	#6
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by PGillin Hello, I'm looking for a good 45mm lens that will work on film. I shoot on a KX and Spottie, so M42 or K is fine. K is SLIGHTLY preferred. I've used some absolutely superb 55mm lenses, but I really love the 45mm lenses of older, fixed, rangefinders. Something with that angle of view on my SLR would be absolutely amazing. Any recommendations? Your Spottie is K mount?

12-24-2010, 10:16 AM	#7
PGillin Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southern Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 343 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ira Your Spottie is K mount? No, however my KX is K mount.

12-24-2010, 11:21 AM	#9
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Originally posted by PGillin No, however my KX is K mount. So how do you expect to use a K lens on the Spottie? You can't.

12-24-2010, 11:31 AM	#10
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	I think he prefers his KX to his spotty.

12-24-2010, 11:36 AM	#11
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	He says he wants a 45 that will work with film. Look at the title of his thread.

12-24-2010, 11:44 AM	#12
PGillin Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southern Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 343 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ira So how do you expect to use a K lens on the Spottie? You can't. Yes, I understand. But, I shoot both cameras regularly, so I can easily use a lens in either mount. Naturally an M42 lens would go on the Spotmatic and K mount lens would go on the KX, but I would be able to use either type. The reason I'm leaning slightly towards K is because the KX is new, and I only have one K lens. I'm genuinely not trying to be argumentative about this, I have a superb K camera and a superb M42 camera, so I'm open to a lens in either mount. I see what you're saying, but I don't understand what you're getting at, besides that K mount lenses don't fit M42 cameras.

12-24-2010, 11:52 AM	#13
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	Nothing to do with being argumentative, but if you reread your original post, you specifically asked about a 45mm for your film/your Spottie, in either K or M42. Based on that reading, it looks like you thought a K would work on the Spottie.

12-24-2010, 11:56 AM - 1 Like	#14
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	Originally posted by Ira He says he wants a 45 that will work with film. Look at the title of his thread. Sorry, I assumed he was talking about the film K-X SLR. Pentax KX Film SLR Camera Brochure

12-24-2010, 12:02 PM	#15
PGillin Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southern Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 343 Original Poster	I should've specified that I meant the film KX from the start, sorry. Anyways, fixed that in the OP. I can see where KX caused some confusion. Sorry about that, then.