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02-24-2011, 11:10 AM   #256
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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
good to know we are thinking of barcelona on one of the next couple of trips
I have friends who stayed by La Rambla in an apartment they rented, but the most sophisticated camera he had with him was an old yashica D so not much chance of theft there (I'm looking at one on RFF for a whopping $99 plus $20 shipping to canada, less than my last medium format film order was )
Since we're off topic and the thread has taken more "friendly" terms

I was in Barcelona in 2005 with my elderly mom -
and was totally oblivious to the possibility of crime -
fortunately for us - we encountered no problems.

Here's my album/slideShow of 83 photos all taken on kit lens**

as with most of my overseas travel these days - I did not take my SLR -
actually truth be told 2005 was before I owned my first dSLR
(although I still had more film SLRs than arms and legs)
- I merely had the Canon S70 (digital) compact
with equiv 28-100 fixed "kit"** lens .

The one significant discovery was a small Dali Museum across from the front of the Barcelona Cathedral (it's shown starting from shot #8 - that's the main Barcelona Cathedral - not to be confused with Gaudi's famous Sagrada Familia Cathedral which I also have shots of from #15) - although small it was actually pretty rich in Dali stuff.


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nice work Vincent, much better than the stuff my brother in law shot and he went to art school and has had shows of his paintings for cripes sake but his photography eye apparently is sadly lacking.
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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
nice work Vincent, much better than the stuff my brother in law shot and he went to art school and has had shows of his paintings for cripes sake but his photography eye apparently is sadly lacking.
Thanks Eddie - that was very kind.

Hope you'll enjoy Barcelona -
just to show how lucky we were -
not only did we manage to avoid any sort of (crime) problems
(but please be vigilant -
I consider myself very lucky on this to have avoided problems) -
we also accidentally came across a poster for a classical guitar concert held in a church/cathedral by Manuel Gonzalez (I had no idea who he was) - where the acoustics were just great - he played just about all the familiar/popular Spanish classical guitar pieces (Shot #53 all those shots were without flash at S70's ISO400 which was pretty poor/noisy) -
I mean I still prefer John Williams - but there's something about hearing a Spaniard playing Spanish music in a Spanish Cathedral while on vacation in Spain......
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The copy that came with my White Kx is an awesome example. I wouldn't hesitate to use it stopped down a stop or two for a Pro shoot.

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QuoteOriginally posted by benjikan Quote
The copy that came with my White Kx is an awesome example. I wouldn't hesitate to use it stopped down a stop or two for a Pro shoot.
Thanks for that, Ben. I hope this puts an end to the debate. But I doubt it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by benjikan Quote
The copy that came with my White Kx is an awesome example. I wouldn't hesitate to use it stopped down a stop or two for a Pro shoot.

Has nobody told you that mentioning 18-55 and pro in the same sentence is blasphemy!

IMO, I wouldn't disagree, since a lot of studio shots can be done in the f/8-11 range where most lenses are at their peak, and the 18-55 does quite well there compared to lenses of its peer.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Tony3d Quote
Is it just me, or is the kit lens really as bad as I think it is? I'm really not getting a lot of detail. It's sharp, but not a lot of fine detail. I notice this primarily on shot at infinity. Trees seem to blur together. I sent the lens and k7 body on to Pentax, both has been calibrated. I have a mint super Takumar 1.4 lens. Do you think it would be worth buying the adapter for it? Would I see more detail with the new 18-135 lens?
I personally think it's just you...I really like it for certain situations. Like these long exposure night shots.




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Funny, but when I purchased my KX my initial thing was to put my tried and trusted Sigma 28-80 (mz50 kit lens) on. I was really let down with the results and really doubted my KX buying decision for a while, it was only when a friend switched me onto this website I even bothered to try the 18-55DL and I love it! For my mind its a great all round lens.

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QuoteOriginally posted by papillon_65 Quote
I don't live in the US.
Pity...


I checked out the prices on the 18-55/3.5-5.6 WR at Jacob's and apparently you Brits are even more fond of the lens than we are here in the U.S. 204.99 vs. 306.99 for the 16-45/4. I wonder why they are discounting the 16-45/4 so heavily?


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Pity...


I checked out the prices on the 18-55/3.5-5.6 WR at Jacob's and apparently you Brits are even more fond of the lens than we are here in the U.S. 204.99 vs. 306.99 for the 16-45/4. I wonder why they are discounting the 16-45/4 so heavily?


Steve
I don't know why the 16-45mm is so heavily discounted, I was surprised at the price of it for what it is, it's an absolute bargain for the price AFAIC. If you can cope with the lesser range on the long end then it is the best bargain Pentax zoom over here for me.

edit - for clarification, Warehouse Express sells the 16-45mm for 233 (This has gone up due to a VAT increase in January) and the 18-55mm WR for 167, so I was wrong, the difference is less than 2x, quite a bit less in fact.

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Wasn't there another thread around indicating the 16-45mm was on the way out?

Found one and two.

Maybe why?
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Wasn't there another thread around indicating the 16-45mm was on the way out?

Found one and two.

Maybe why?
I wonder how the sales have been on that lens since other very good performers are available in that range that are a stop brighter and a bit cheaper.
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Gorgeous shots, man!

QuoteOriginally posted by mtroute Quote
I personally think it's just you...I really like it for certain situations. Like these long exposure night shots.




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that lens is just AWFUL, isn't it? I think we paid TOO MUCH for it...we're getting ripped off! It's ruining my perfect images, just can't get the resolution out of it...



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pentax da 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 at 50mm
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9735/da18553556.jpg

compared to

quantaray 35-80mm 4-5.6 at 50mm
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9559/quantaray3580456.jpg

Read more at: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/134581-sharpne...#ixzz1F7NNOHzu
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Also one should read Kammerer's post #6 in the same thread.

QuoteOriginally posted by Kammerer Quote
The focus on there shots appears to be in different places. Look at the Enter key on your keyboard - on the 18-55 shot it is sharper than on the Quantaray shot. Either your copy of 18-55 has FF, or you need to repeat the shoot...
I agree the focus points are different
the 18-55 shot's focus is more forward -
such that the forward Jack Daniels label is more in focus than the Quantrary shot.
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