Originally posted by Pentaxor 16-45 for $700? that's highway robbery. which knock-off store sell it that much? basically, an idiot would buy such overpriced lens. obviously, you haven't been really around checking lenses. go to londondrugs, kerrisdale cameras, gastown photo, Leo's, Broadway Cameras and Dunne and Rundle and you will see how affordable a new 16-45 lens is. it seems you haven't been out that much. are you living under a boulder or something?
and why it wouldn't be fair if you get a used one for cheaper price? using your wits is not a crime, DUH !
I think you just did my a favor by using my photo as a sample which is not even from a kitlens. but anyway, I must have liitle or no credibility now, right?
wait, dont go just yet, I want to provide the link where you get that great image from the so-called kitlens taken by someone...ehem....
here it is >>>>>>>
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/post-your-photos/72254-vancouver-main-area.html
take note this is only to be used for kit lens reference and purpose only.
Ok, I'll stop posting in this thread since I already lost my credibility. kit lens (55-300) rock my world.
lesson to be learned from this, always check where you get your examples from.
seems like someone else is clueless with a lot of things. how sad.
The lens was $699.00 when new...I remember the DAY it was announced...
Pentax DA 16-45 mm Digital Lens: Digital Photography Review
It was a lens I made a special trip into the store to try out, and was disheartened at the price. IF YOU RECALL, OUR CURRENCY WAS FLUCTUATING WILDLY AT THE TIME WHICH ACCOUNTED FOR THE PRICE DISCREPANCY.
And if you look a little further:
http://www.pentaxwebstore.com/product_detail.asp?T1=PTX+21507
The retail price is still $599.00....
And the 55-300 is NOT a kit lens...
Originally posted by paperbag846 Yes I could see you really questioning the value of that lens at 700 dollars. The addage "you get what you pay for" is true of all lenses, but is most apparent with the least expensive gear, IMHO. The it is incredibly useful, but limiting compared to the much more expensive glass out there. The biggest problem is that the kit needs to be really stopped down to be nice and sharp, which completely eliminates the possibility of low DOF shots, or low light photography without a flash. It's worth owning one, even if it's just considered as disposable. I'd rather lose the kit lens to the elements or a drunk partygoer over any other lens... even the vintage stuff (which can be harder to track down in good condition).
Unfortunately in Canada you really need to hunt for good Pentax prices. I spent a long time thinking I could not afford any Pentax stuff new, because of the prices at the local stores (Vistek and Henry's).
After I was pointed in the right direction, though, I found that there were, in fact, sane sales people in this country. If it wasn't for the internet, we'd be screwed
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Happy new year
. Two kit lens shots:
Attachment 79414 They've come down somewhat since they were introduced, mainly because our currency is way up, and also because they are now made in Vietnam. It's STILL 3-4 times the price of the kit lens, which remains one of the greatest bargains in the history of photography...
Originally posted by RioRico Let's see if I can sum-up some of the points here, and maybe add some.
* The DA18-55 ain't as nice optically as lenses costing much more. (I got mine used for US$50).
* Those optical shortcomings can be fixed in PP by those who want and know how to do PP.
* The DA18-55 is much used by people buying their first dSLR who don't know how to use it.
* The DA18-55 is rated high by PopPhoto and is considered better than CaNikon equivalents.
* Pentax has made some crap kit lenses (think A35-80) but the DA18-55 ain't in that league.
* The DA18-55 is used by some professionals to earn a living, and by amateurs who don't.
* The kit.lens gallery here is full of brilliant pictures that kit.lens detractors ignore.
* Large numbers of Pentax dSLR buyers will never use anything BUT a kit.lens.
* Newbie dissatisfaction with the kit.lens helps drive sales of expensive 'upgrades'.
I'll admit that I don't use my DA18-55 as a primary work lens -- to me, the DA18-250 is basic, and all others are specialty lenses. The DA18-55's specialty is as something upon which to hang various filters, optical strap-ons (wide-tele-macro-etc), and other odd stuff -- so it's a convenient test-bed for me.
Let's flog that horse's corpse a bit more, eh?
No kidding. And I agree with all your points. The rest is just crazy.
I can understand some variations in samples, but not enough to cause the HUGE discrepancy in image making. It's down to operator error, I'm afraid, and someone who wants to blame the equipment.
The only reason I'd sell mine is to get the two weatherproof ones.
Cameron
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