Lens flare wanted

mikechopragant · 12-30-2010, 10:28 AM

Hi
This may seem like an odd request but can anyone recommend lenses I can use on my K-r that will tend to produce lens flare and other artefacts.

Thanks,

Mike

KxBlaze · 12-30-2010, 10:35 AM

Not sure which lenses are more prone to flares than others but if you shoot in direct sunlight without a hood you can produce flares with most any lens. Controlling the flare, I think would be the tricky part.

Ira · 12-30-2010, 11:09 AM

My S-Tak 105 is horrible for flare.

Which you seem to considerable wonderful.

EECH!!!

ve2vfd · 12-30-2010, 11:29 AM

Yup, my old Takumar 135mm bayonnet flares like crazy when shooting almost into the sun It's not super tak, no SMC and they included a built in pull out hood for a reason!

Pat

JeffJS · 12-30-2010, 11:36 AM

This may give you some ideas.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/mini-challenges-games-photo-stories/12410...air-flare.html

**Just1MoreDave** · 12-30-2010, 11:37 AM

Avoid SMC coated lenses. Older lenses are better, at least 15 years old. Lenses with a lot of elements work well, like a zoom or a fast wide-angle prime. My 28mm fast Vivitar and Sigma primes are pretty good at flare. Wider angles are also good for composing, since you can have the flare and the subject separate.

paperbag846 · 12-30-2010, 12:10 PM

Most older film lenses produce a good amount of flare compared to the modern counterparts.

My little flare machine is the A 28mm/2.8, even with the SMC coatings. Without a hood it's got a very vintage look to it.

My takumar bayonet 80-200 flares much more, but it's too much... it stops being fashionable and becomes an image ruiner.

macTak · 12-30-2010, 12:24 PM

I imagine offhand that you may want a wider lens to play with flare. May I suggest the Sigma Ultra-Wide II 24mm f2.8--that lens can easily be induced to provide flare--and is a sharp and excellent lens worth owning regardless.

While I've never gotten extreme flare from the DA18-55, that lens can indeed produce some flare, and you may already have it.

**Rense** · 12-30-2010, 12:26 PM

buy one of the cheap non smc-takumar bayonet lenses on flea-bay! and shoot 45 degr. in the sun..... effect guaranteed!

littledrawe · 12-31-2010, 04:02 PM

the DA17-70 mm is the most flarey of the lens I have.

mikechopragant · 01-03-2011, 05:11 AM

Thanks to you all for the suggestions. If the sun ever shines again in London I'll pop an old lens on and have a go.

Zav · 01-03-2011, 06:01 AM

Yeah, old, cheap, lot of elements and not coated are what you are looking for!

**Lowell Goudge** · 01-03-2011, 06:13 AM

you need to describe more of what you are looking for.

double images and ghosting can easily be achieved withany lens by adding a really cheap skylight filter in front.

big low contrast donuts can be achieved by having a lens with a shiny surface behind the rear element (like a lens retaining ring that is not flat black.

as mentioned older lenses have coarings that perform worse than newer lenses, but even takumars are actually pretty good at shooting into lights. My biggest issue is cheap filters.

kenyee · 01-03-2011, 09:43 AM

the FA50 flares like crazy too...old film lens...
The bad part is you lose contrast but you can add it back in post...

**NaClH2O** · 01-03-2011, 11:25 AM

Definitely the flariest (is that a word?) lens I own

Note that this is w/o a filter!

NaCl(it's a fun lens, but usually not anywhere within 50 degrees of the sun)H2O

12-30-2010, 10:28 AM	#1
mikechopragant Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18	Lens flare wanted Hi This may seem like an odd request but can anyone recommend lenses I can use on my K-r that will tend to produce lens flare and other artefacts. Thanks, Mike

01-03-2011, 11:25 AM	#15
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	the zenitar 16mm fisheye Definitely the flariest (is that a word?) lens I own Note that this is w/o a filter! NaCl(it's a fun lens, but usually not anywhere within 50 degrees of the sun)H2O

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12-30-2010, 10:35 AM	#2
KxBlaze Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,602	Not sure which lenses are more prone to flares than others but if you shoot in direct sunlight without a hood you can produce flares with most any lens. Controlling the flare, I think would be the tricky part.

12-30-2010, 11:09 AM	#3
Ira Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Coral Springs, FL Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,216	My S-Tak 105 is horrible for flare. Which you seem to considerable wonderful. EECH!!!

12-30-2010, 11:29 AM	#4
ve2vfd Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,433	Yup, my old Takumar 135mm bayonnet flares like crazy when shooting almost into the sun It's not super tak, no SMC and they included a built in pull out hood for a reason! Pat

12-30-2010, 11:36 AM	#5
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	This may give you some ideas. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/mini-challenges-games-photo-stories/12410...air-flare.html

12-30-2010, 11:37 AM	#6
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	Avoid SMC coated lenses. Older lenses are better, at least 15 years old. Lenses with a lot of elements work well, like a zoom or a fast wide-angle prime. My 28mm fast Vivitar and Sigma primes are pretty good at flare. Wider angles are also good for composing, since you can have the flare and the subject separate.

12-30-2010, 12:10 PM	#7
paperbag846 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,395	Most older film lenses produce a good amount of flare compared to the modern counterparts. My little flare machine is the A 28mm/2.8, even with the SMC coatings. Without a hood it's got a very vintage look to it. My takumar bayonet 80-200 flares much more, but it's too much... it stops being fashionable and becomes an image ruiner.

12-30-2010, 12:24 PM	#8
macTak Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 759	I imagine offhand that you may want a wider lens to play with flare. May I suggest the Sigma Ultra-Wide II 24mm f2.8--that lens can easily be induced to provide flare--and is a sharp and excellent lens worth owning regardless. While I've never gotten extreme flare from the DA18-55, that lens can indeed produce some flare, and you may already have it.

12-30-2010, 12:26 PM	#9
Rense Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zetten - The Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,050	buy one of the cheap non smc-takumar bayonet lenses on flea-bay! and shoot 45 degr. in the sun..... effect guaranteed!

12-31-2010, 04:02 PM	#10
littledrawe Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Red Rock Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,514	the DA17-70 mm is the most flarey of the lens I have.

01-03-2011, 05:11 AM	#11
mikechopragant Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18 Original Poster	Thanks to you all for the suggestions. If the sun ever shines again in London I'll pop an old lens on and have a go.

01-03-2011, 06:01 AM	#12
Zav Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,371	Yeah, old, cheap, lot of elements and not coated are what you are looking for!

01-03-2011, 06:13 AM	#13
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	you need to describe more of what you are looking for. double images and ghosting can easily be achieved withany lens by adding a really cheap skylight filter in front. big low contrast donuts can be achieved by having a lens with a shiny surface behind the rear element (like a lens retaining ring that is not flat black. as mentioned older lenses have coarings that perform worse than newer lenses, but even takumars are actually pretty good at shooting into lights. My biggest issue is cheap filters.

01-03-2011, 09:43 AM	#14
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	the FA50 flares like crazy too...old film lens... The bad part is you lose contrast but you can add it back in post...