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DanielT74 · 06-06-2011, 05:32 PM

Hexanon 57/1.2 or Rokkor 58/1.2?

PS I googled for images and I know the answer now

Last edited by DanielT74; 06-06-2011 at 06:39 PM.

axl · 06-07-2011, 05:22 AM

I thought it would be Minolta MD Rokkor 50/1.2 but since you say it's longer, I'll go with Daniel's guess of MD Rokkor 58/1.2

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 06-07-2011, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by DanielT74

Hexanon 57/1.2 or Rokkor 58/1.2?

PS I googled for images and I know the answer now

The Konica Hexanon AR 57mm f1.2 is the correct answer!
It is one hell of a lens. Heavy, 460g (62mm filter) compared to the 345g of the A50/1.2, but a very nice bokeh. And mounted on the 740g Konica T3N body (compare with the K2 at 680g) it doesn't look that large. And that combi is a pleasure to shoot with.

Only drawback is that it doesn't realy mount on a Pentax camera, only almost.

On a K20D (doesn't lock, held safely in place, no infinity):

Pentaxor · 06-07-2011, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

The Konica Hexanon AR 57mm f1.2 is the correct answer!
It is one hell of a lens. Heavy, 460g (62mm filter) compared to the 345g of the A50/1.2, but a very nice bokeh. And mounted on the 740g Konica T3N body (compare with the K2 at 680g) it doesn't look that large. And that combi is a pleasure to shoot with.

Only drawback is that it doesn't realy mount on a Pentax camera, only almost.

On a K20D (doesn't lock, held safely in place, no infinity):

Doug, you might want to try out some of the adapters for it. the lens seems to fit and compatible (with infinity I think) with the Sony NEX and Samsung NX systems.

Pentaxor · 06-07-2011, 10:14 AM

anyway, on a Pentax, the Konica lens seems to render like a Cosina except that it's sharper, more contrast, smoother,dreamier, creamier and the softy smooth highlights and colors look much better. bokeh transition is great btw and I also I like it's color rendering.

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 06-07-2011, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Pentaxor

Doug, you might want to try out some of the adapters for it. the lens seems to fit and compatible (with infinity I think) with the Sony NEX and Samsung NX systems.

Well, not a 4/3rd, that it too much cropping. But I've been thinking about the NX. Ideally someone would launch a 24x36mm digital EVIL that left room for plenty of adapters. Meanwhile, I've got enough working film Konica bodies to survive.

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 06-07-2011, 10:53 AM

While I am at it, I'll continye with another lens. Now it is in K mount.

RXrenesis8 · 06-07-2011, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

I really like how you put the focus between the panels and let the SC take the foreground panel towards magenta and the background panel towards green!

DanielT74 · 06-07-2011, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden

While I am at it, I'll continye with another lens. Now it is in K mount.

An older macro lens, like Tokina 90/2.5?

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 06-07-2011, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by RXrenesis8

I really like how you put the focus between the panels and let the SC take the foreground panel towards magenta and the background panel towards green!

Yes, it it shot to demonstrate this behaviour of the lens, that front and back OOF have these different optical tendaencies. But you hardly notice it in normal shooting.

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 06-07-2011, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by DanielT74

An older macro lens, like Tokina 90/2.5?

That is good thinking, but I don't have that specific lens. It is in my profile.

**Douglas_of_Sweden** · 06-07-2011, 11:06 PM

More shots:

All four shots wide open. This lens has a really smooth bookeh.

RXrenesis8 · 06-08-2011, 12:15 AM

I love those old 2.5 macros! Since you said it was in your profile I had a peak (again): So 90mm f/2.5 was the right combo but Daniel got the wrong maker?

I gotta admit though, Bokina does have more of a ring to it than Bomron...

Pentaxor · 06-08-2011, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by RXrenesis8

I love those old 2.5 macros! Since you said it was in your profile I had a peak (again): So 90mm f/2.5 was the right combo but Daniel got the wrong maker?

I gotta admit though, Bokina does have more of a ring to it than Bomron...

although I had thought that this was a macro, I was pretty skeptical that this was a Bokina. first, the colors are not as pleasingly smooth and ringy and lacks that certain saturation in the colors (not too strong nor dull at the same time). second, the distinct sharpness at wide open is missing.

aurele · 06-08-2011, 03:16 AM

i would say it's a lens, without coating, or some kind of old version of it.

Color looke like a tak bayonnet K135/2.8, but the macro aspect is telling me it can't be this lense, because of the magnification, wich seems to big.

edit : maybe K100/4 macro ?

06-07-2011, 02:37 PM	#503
RXrenesis8 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando, FL (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 523	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden I really like how you put the focus between the panels and let the SC take the foreground panel towards magenta and the background panel towards green! Last edited by RXrenesis8; 06-07-2011 at 03:14 PM.

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06-06-2011, 05:32 PM	#496
DanielT74 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,377	Hexanon 57/1.2 or Rokkor 58/1.2? PS I googled for images and I know the answer now Last edited by DanielT74; 06-06-2011 at 06:39 PM.

06-07-2011, 05:22 AM	#497
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	I thought it would be Minolta MD Rokkor 50/1.2 but since you say it's longer, I'll go with Daniel's guess of MD Rokkor 58/1.2

06-07-2011, 09:23 AM	#498
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by DanielT74 Hexanon 57/1.2 or Rokkor 58/1.2? PS I googled for images and I know the answer now The Konica Hexanon AR 57mm f1.2 is the correct answer! It is one hell of a lens. Heavy, 460g (62mm filter) compared to the 345g of the A50/1.2, but a very nice bokeh. And mounted on the 740g Konica T3N body (compare with the K2 at 680g) it doesn't look that large. And that combi is a pleasure to shoot with. Only drawback is that it doesn't realy mount on a Pentax camera, only almost. On a K20D (doesn't lock, held safely in place, no infinity):

06-07-2011, 10:07 AM	#499
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden The Konica Hexanon AR 57mm f1.2 is the correct answer! It is one hell of a lens. Heavy, 460g (62mm filter) compared to the 345g of the A50/1.2, but a very nice bokeh. And mounted on the 740g Konica T3N body (compare with the K2 at 680g) it doesn't look that large. And that combi is a pleasure to shoot with. Only drawback is that it doesn't realy mount on a Pentax camera, only almost. On a K20D (doesn't lock, held safely in place, no infinity): Doug, you might want to try out some of the adapters for it. the lens seems to fit and compatible (with infinity I think) with the Sony NEX and Samsung NX systems.

06-07-2011, 10:14 AM	#500
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	anyway, on a Pentax, the Konica lens seems to render like a Cosina except that it's sharper, more contrast, smoother,dreamier, creamier and the softy smooth highlights and colors look much better. bokeh transition is great btw and I also I like it's color rendering.

06-07-2011, 10:33 AM	#501
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by Pentaxor Doug, you might want to try out some of the adapters for it. the lens seems to fit and compatible (with infinity I think) with the Sony NEX and Samsung NX systems. Well, not a 4/3rd, that it too much cropping. But I've been thinking about the NX. Ideally someone would launch a 24x36mm digital EVIL that left room for plenty of adapters. Meanwhile, I've got enough working film Konica bodies to survive.

06-07-2011, 10:53 AM	#502
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	While I am at it, I'll continye with another lens. Now it is in K mount.

06-07-2011, 08:55 PM	#504
DanielT74 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,377	Originally posted by Douglas_of_Sweden While I am at it, I'll continye with another lens. Now it is in K mount. An older macro lens, like Tokina 90/2.5?

06-07-2011, 11:02 PM	#505
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by RXrenesis8 I really like how you put the focus between the panels and let the SC take the foreground panel towards magenta and the background panel towards green! Yes, it it shot to demonstrate this behaviour of the lens, that front and back OOF have these different optical tendaencies. But you hardly notice it in normal shooting.

06-07-2011, 11:03 PM	#506
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	Originally posted by DanielT74 An older macro lens, like Tokina 90/2.5? That is good thinking, but I don't have that specific lens. It is in my profile.

06-07-2011, 11:06 PM	#507
Douglas_of_Sweden Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,374	More shots: All four shots wide open. This lens has a really smooth bookeh.

06-08-2011, 12:15 AM	#508
RXrenesis8 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orlando, FL (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 523	I love those old 2.5 macros! Since you said it was in your profile I had a peak (again): So 90mm f/2.5 was the right combo but Daniel got the wrong maker? I gotta admit though, Bokina does have more of a ring to it than Bomron...

06-08-2011, 01:13 AM	#509
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by RXrenesis8 I love those old 2.5 macros! Since you said it was in your profile I had a peak (again): So 90mm f/2.5 was the right combo but Daniel got the wrong maker? I gotta admit though, Bokina does have more of a ring to it than Bomron... although I had thought that this was a macro, I was pretty skeptical that this was a Bokina. first, the colors are not as pleasingly smooth and ringy and lacks that certain saturation in the colors (not too strong nor dull at the same time). second, the distinct sharpness at wide open is missing.

06-08-2011, 03:16 AM	#510
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	i would say it's a lens, without coating, or some kind of old version of it. Color looke like a tak bayonnet K135/2.8, but the macro aspect is telling me it can't be this lense, because of the magnification, wich seems to big. edit : maybe K100/4 macro ?

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