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01-06-2011, 09:34 AM   #1
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zeiss o pentax??

We assume that I still have not clear ideas,
Therefore, I have a double question, which eventually could be added in a single,
In practice, the problem is here, I tried the Voigtlander lenses, and I'm innammmoorato
time and immediately
Why you ask, solving 10 and praise, fun colors.

Now my dream is the Voigtlander 125, but it's hard to find

Therefore, since there is,
I thought the new macro pentax Wr 100, or the Zeiss 100 macro.
Flying the colors in PP, anyone know which of the two would suit me most, and which approaches the performance of the Voigtlander?

The only drawback, I had the 135 A * 1.8, looking fascinated, IQ shudder, but the colors a little smortini, that's why I tried the 125 Voigt. This is due to the fact that I would find the right fit 135/120mm for me.
While the 100mm Zeiss and wr, I'm afraid are too close to those of mio85 and 90mm.

On the other hand, I also the dilemma of zeiss 50mm macro? 'Pentax * 55? Voigtlander 58??

help??

tkx

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Um......what?
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I think the combo VL58 and 100WR is very usefull.
VL58 for portraits of people and flowers.
the 100WR for bugs and candid.
Both not too havy or big to carry around in the field
and weather resistant and solid.
A macro 50mm is nice too, but less versatile as a 100mm
due to the limited working distance.
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Hi bollicina31,

I have a Zeiss 50/2 Makro PK and also mount my medium format Zeiss lens on my ist*DS2 & K7 via a custom adapter. My experience is the 50/2 is "unforgivingly sharp" for any portrait work, it will show all details on the face. On the other hand, the older medium format Zeiss lens will render a smoother (or less details) portrait. Besides the Zeiss lens, my portrait workhorse is a 25+ years old A* 85/1.4 which I think is the best for money and size. One thing I do notice is the camera sensor does make a difference. Same lens can render different color & details on my ist*DS2 & K7.

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QuoteOriginally posted by bollicina31 Quote
... anyone know which of the two would suit me most, and which approaches the performance of the Voigtlander?
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The Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 2/100mm.

This is from someone who has both (not me!):

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If I would have to choose between these two lenses, I would keep the Voigtlander 125.

Both lenses are really close in regards of image quality, the Zeiss might produce somewhat higher contrast, but that difference is really small. But the Voigtlander is a 1:1 macro lens, the Zeiss only 1:2.

So, on IQ, both lens are really close, but the Voigtlander is the better macro lens, unfortunately very difficult to find now.
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QuoteOriginally posted by freewheeler Quote
I think the combo VL58 and 100WR is very usefull.
VL58 for portraits of people and flowers.
the 100WR for bugs and candid.
Both not too havy or big to carry around in the field
and weather resistant and solid.
A macro 50mm is nice too, but less versatile as a 100mm
due to the limited working distance.
Hello thank you for your reply.
I will, that the lenses are sharp even in the portraits, I know it's wrong, but I love the lens, very "sharp"
I know why you choose wr to zeiss?

hello thanks
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Hi bollicina31,

I have a Zeiss 50/2 Makro PK and also mount my medium format Zeiss lens on my ist*DS2 & K7 via a custom adapter. My experience is the 50/2 is "unforgivingly sharp" for any portrait work, it will show all details on the face. On the other hand, the older medium format Zeiss lens will render a smoother (or less details) portrait. Besides the Zeiss lens, my portrait workhorse is a 25+ years old A* 85/1.4 which I think is the best for money and size. One thing I do notice is the camera sensor does make a difference. Same lens can render different color & details on my ist*DS2 & K7.
Hello thank you for your reply.
It is the sensor of the camera makes all the difference.

I own both the pentax 85mm, 90mm Voigtlander that, my fear that the 100mm pentax zeiss or, too close to the focal length of 90mm, I do not want the same two lenses.

The colors zeiss as they are, compared to 85 pentax??

hello thanks
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The Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 2/100mm.

This is from someone who has both (not me!):
Hello, thanks for info,
Blessed is he who has them both
I found these two graphs

Carl Zeiss Makro Planar T 100mm f/2.0 ZF Lens Review. html

Voigtlander APO Lanthar Macro 125mm f/2.5 SL Lens Review

what do you think?

hello thanks

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Um......what?
Oh man, this made me lmao. I was reading OP and i'm like wtf is he saying and then you post this!
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Oh man, this made me lmao. I was reading OP and i'm like wtf is he saying and then you post this!
I'm guessing his English is better than my Swiss, OR, the translator blew a gasket.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bollicina31 Quote
Hello, thanks for info,
Blessed is he who has them both
I found these two graphs

Carl Zeiss Makro Planar T 100mm f/2.0 ZF Lens Review. html

Voigtlander APO Lanthar Macro 125mm f/2.5 SL Lens Review

what do you think?

hello thanks
The Zeiss does not have AF, WR and is only 1:2 life size ratio. Plus, it costs ~ 2x the Pentax.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bollicina31 Quote
Hello thank you for your reply.
It is the sensor of the camera makes all the difference.

I own both the pentax 85mm, 90mm Voigtlander that, my fear that the 100mm pentax zeiss or, too close to the focal length of 90mm, I do not want the same two lenses.

The colors zeiss as they are, compared to 85 pentax??

hello thanks

You are right. 85/90 is too close to 100 and that is why I went for 50/2 Makro ZK instead of 100/2 Makro ZK despite better reviews. I have the trusty A* 85/1.4 and A 100/2.8 Macro already, I only want a close focusing lens for group shots.

Color rendering between my Japanese ZK Zeiss and medium format German Zeiss lens is remarkably different! I find the ZK has "sharper" color separation but less tolerance in under exposure error, i.e. color will shift so much that even PhotoShop cannot correct it. Underexposure with the German lens is very easy to adjust in PhotoShop. Put it in comparison, 50/2 ZK Zeiss is ultra sharp and saturated (very Japanese lens?), older medium format German Zeiss is very "nature" and A* 85/1.4 color & resolution is the best in-between - clear & nature enough to please everyone.
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Would anyone mind if I stuck in an unrelated question here? I own Voightlander and Zeiss lenses, but I don't know if the K-7's built-in lens distortion corrections work with them. Does anyone know the answer to this question?
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Hi Les3547,

Unfortunately I would say no. I have both Zeiss 21/2.8 & 50/2 ZK on my K7. It will "occasionally" ask about the 50 and never ask about the 21 when I mount them. Since the 21 end up as a 33 (21X1.6) and the 50 as a 80, I have not notice much distortion anyway.
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QuoteOriginally posted by MJL Quote
Hi Les3547,

Unfortunately I would say no. I have both Zeiss 21/2.8 & 50/2 ZK on my K7. It will "occasionally" ask about the 50 and never ask about the 21 when I mount them. Since the 21 end up as a 33 (21X1.6) and the 50 as a 80, I have not notice much distortion anyway.
Thanks for the information.
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