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01-16-2011, 09:09 PM   #1
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FA77mm or A50mm/1.4?

I am considering getting an FA77. The thing is that I will probably need to sell my A50mm F1.4 (plus another lens or two) to raise the finances.

So, my question is, will the FA77 make my 50mm redundant? Or should I find some way to keep both? Thanks in advance and sorry if this has been asked before!

01-16-2011, 09:29 PM   #2
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I have no doubts that you will like the IQ of the 77 better than the 50... the question is how much you like the focal length. They are very different.

The perspective difference between 50 and 77mm is significant especially indoors. Indoors, 50mm is pushing it often, while 77 would be most usable in a very large room. Without knowing the rest of your lineup it is hard to say whether you wlll miss out, but they really are pretty different lenses.

The 77 is going to give you all the low dof you will need, space provided, but if you are a ow DOF junkie you might seriously regret selling off the A version of the 50 1.4.
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I doubt you'd be disappointing in the 77, but I haven't tried one personally. I do recommend making sure you're OK returning/reselling it before you get rid of your other lenses, just in case it doesn't fit your expectations.

The 50 and the 77 are a wee-bit redundant unless you're a collector. Now if we were talking about the 50 1.2 I'd probably feel differently, but the 1.4 is common enough that I think you're safe letting it go.

I'd recommend getting a slightly wider prime to complement the 77 (unless you already have one). The DA 35 macro or DA 40 are good choices, depending on what you need. If speed is a requirement, it's hard to beat the FA 31 1.8, but that's likely out of your ballpark (it is mine right now). There's also the Sigma 30 1.4 which would be a great compromise option.
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Spock's kit (according to his profile)
K10D, DA15/4, A28/2, A50/1.4, DA18-55WR, DA50-200WR, DA*200, 1.7AFA, FA28-105/3.2-4.5

I think a prime only setup with 15mm, 28mm and 77mm (or 70mm) will work; at least for me it will. The gap is big but survivable if you know what you're doing.

And I guess Spock's next step will be the FA31Ltd to replace the A28/2

Any reason for the FA77 specifically? For it's price, you're close to a DA40Ltd + DA70Ltd and don't have a gap. And the DA70Ltd on its own is cheaper

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Thanks for your replies.

Yes, the lens list in my profile is right. My default lens is usually the A28/2 - which spends most of its time on my camera. (I have considered replacing it withthe FA31 - but I can't justify spending so much more just to gain autofocus ability).

Sometimes though at family gatherings, etc, I find the 50mm more useful than the 28mm in that I can be less 'in your face' with my subjects and catch them unawares. In this regard though, I sometimes feel the 50mm is too short for what I use it for.

On the flipside however, it is a fair comment that in confined spaces the 77mm might be too long. It's a hard decision especially as the 50mm is such a great general purpose lens suited to a range of different photographic subjects - but then again I guess the 77 would be too. Either way, I can't see myself carrying both lenses and switching from one to the other.

As for why the FA77 instead of the DA70? I just like the purposeful and 'retro' look of it - especially in silver. (edit - and I like the fact it is faster than the DA70)

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The 43 ltd is more in line with a fast fifty replacer than the FA 77 - but the FA 77 is just sheer brilliance.

Now as for FA 77 vs DA 70, there are innumerable threads discussing this, e.g. https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/101291-fa-77mm...m-limited.html, https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/68340-da-70mm-fa-77mm.html, https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/103795-fa77mm-...endations.html, https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-lens-discussion/13742-limited-...0-vs-77-a.html, and so on.

Speed (f/1.8 vs f/2.4) and colour rendition are the most obvious differences between the lenses.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Spock Quote
Thanks for your replies.

Yes, the lens list in my profile is right. My default lens is usually the A28/2 - which spends most of its time on my camera. (I have considered replacing it withthe FA31 - but I can't justify spending so much more just to gain autofocus ability).

Sometimes though at family gatherings, etc, I find the 50mm more useful than the 28mm in that I can be less 'in your face' with my subjects and catch them unawares. In this regard though, I sometimes feel the 50mm is too short for what I use it for.

On the flipside however, it is a fair comment that in confined spaces the 77mm might be too long. It's a hard decision especially as the 50mm is such a great general purpose lens suited to a range of different photographic subjects - but then again I guess the 77 would be too. Either way, I can't see myself carrying both lenses and switching from one to the other.

As for why the FA77 instead of the DA70? I just like the purposeful and 'retro' look of it - especially in silver. (edit - and I like the fact it is faster than the DA70)

you will not be disappointed

I rate as my preferred lens the 3 amigos in this order. FA43, FA77 and FA31.
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Unless you shoot film, the 70LTD is as good a lens as the 77.
I know this is heretical, but I do own both and so have the opportunity to shoot with both.
I've used by 77 once in the last 18 months, and according to Lightroom, I use my 70 for about 3 times more pictures than my 77.
I wouldn't let an A50/1.4 go for any reason.

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I'd say try to keep both. 77 has terrific IQ but sometimes can be too long, and that's exactly where the 50 would fit in. Gap between 50 and 77 is enough to warrant keeping both IMO.
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